[v3] fix MADV_COLLAPSE issue if THP settings are disabled

[PATCH v3 2/2] mm: shmem: disallow hugepages if the system-wide shmem THP sysfs settings are disabled

Posted by Baolin Wang 7 months, 2 weeks ago

When invoking thp_vma_allowable_orders(), if the TVA_ENFORCE_SYSFS flag is not
specified, we will ignore the THP sysfs settings. And the MADV_COLLAPSE is an
example of such a case.

The MADV_COLLAPSE will ignore the system-wide shmem THP sysfs settings, which
means that even though we have disabled the shmem THP configuration, MADV_COLLAPSE
will still attempt to collapse into a shmem THP. This violates the rule we have
agreed upon: never means never.

Another rule for madvise, referring to David's suggestion: “allowing for collapsing
in a VM without VM_HUGEPAGE in the "madvise" mode would be fine".

To fix the MADV_COLLAPSE issue for shmem, then the current strategy should be:

For shmem, if none of always, madvise, within_size, and inherit have enabled
PMD-sized THP, then MADV_COLLAPSE will be prohibited from collapsing PMD-sized THP.

For tmpfs, if the mount option is set with the 'huge=never' parameter, then
MADV_COLLAPSE will be prohibited from collapsing PMD-sized THP.

Meanwhile, we should fix the khugepaged selftest for shmem MADV_COLLAPSE by enabling
shmem THP.

Acked-by: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Signed-off-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
---
 mm/shmem.c                              | 6 +++---
 tools/testing/selftests/mm/khugepaged.c | 2 +-
 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/mm/shmem.c b/mm/shmem.c
index 2b19965d27df..e3f51fab2b7d 100644
--- a/mm/shmem.c
+++ b/mm/shmem.c
@@ -637,7 +637,7 @@ static unsigned int shmem_huge_global_enabled(struct inode *inode, pgoff_t index
 		return 0;
 	if (shmem_huge == SHMEM_HUGE_DENY)
 		return 0;
-	if (shmem_huge_force || shmem_huge == SHMEM_HUGE_FORCE)
+	if (shmem_huge == SHMEM_HUGE_FORCE)
 		return maybe_pmd_order;
 
 	/*
@@ -672,7 +672,7 @@ static unsigned int shmem_huge_global_enabled(struct inode *inode, pgoff_t index
 
 		fallthrough;
 	case SHMEM_HUGE_ADVISE:
-		if (vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE)
+		if (shmem_huge_force || (vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE))
 			return maybe_pmd_order;
 		fallthrough;
 	default:
@@ -1806,7 +1806,7 @@ unsigned long shmem_allowable_huge_orders(struct inode *inode,
 	/* Allow mTHP that will be fully within i_size. */
 	mask |= shmem_get_orders_within_size(inode, within_size_orders, index, 0);
 
-	if (vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE)
+	if (shmem_huge_force || (vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE))
 		mask |= READ_ONCE(huge_shmem_orders_madvise);
 
 	if (global_orders > 0)
diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/khugepaged.c b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/khugepaged.c
index 85bfff53dba6..9517ed99c382 100644
--- a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/khugepaged.c
+++ b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/khugepaged.c
@@ -502,7 +502,7 @@ static void __madvise_collapse(const char *msg, char *p, int nr_hpages,
 	printf("%s...", msg);
 
 	settings.thp_enabled = THP_ALWAYS;
-	settings.shmem_enabled = SHMEM_NEVER;
+	settings.shmem_enabled = SHMEM_ALWAYS;
 	thp_push_settings(&settings);
 
 	/* Clear VM_NOHUGEPAGE */
-- 
2.43.5

Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] mm: shmem: disallow hugepages if the system-wide shmem THP sysfs settings are disabled

Posted by David Hildenbrand 7 months, 2 weeks ago

On 23.06.25 10:28, Baolin Wang wrote:
> When invoking thp_vma_allowable_orders(), if the TVA_ENFORCE_SYSFS flag is not
> specified, we will ignore the THP sysfs settings. And the MADV_COLLAPSE is an
> example of such a case.
> 
> The MADV_COLLAPSE will ignore the system-wide shmem THP sysfs settings, which
> means that even though we have disabled the shmem THP configuration, MADV_COLLAPSE
> will still attempt to collapse into a shmem THP. This violates the rule we have
> agreed upon: never means never.
> 
> Another rule for madvise, referring to David's suggestion: “allowing for collapsing
> in a VM without VM_HUGEPAGE in the "madvise" mode would be fine".
> 
> To fix the MADV_COLLAPSE issue for shmem, then the current strategy should be:
> 
> For shmem, if none of always, madvise, within_size, and inherit have enabled
> PMD-sized THP, then MADV_COLLAPSE will be prohibited from collapsing PMD-sized THP.

I assume we could rephrase that to "For shmem, if "shmem_enabled" is set 
to either "none" or "deny", then MADV_COLLAPSE will be prohibited from 
collapsing."

Or am I missing a case?

[...]

> @@ -672,7 +672,7 @@ static unsigned int shmem_huge_global_enabled(struct inode *inode, pgoff_t index
>   
>   		fallthrough;
>   	case SHMEM_HUGE_ADVISE:
> -		if (vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE)
> +		if (shmem_huge_force || (vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE))
>   			return maybe_pmd_order;
>   		fallthrough;
>   	default:
> @@ -1806,7 +1806,7 @@ unsigned long shmem_allowable_huge_orders(struct inode *inode,
>   	/* Allow mTHP that will be fully within i_size. */
>   	mask |= shmem_get_orders_within_size(inode, within_size_orders, index, 0);
>   
> -	if (vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE)
> +	if (shmem_huge_force || (vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE))
>   		mask |= READ_ONCE(huge_shmem_orders_madvise);
>   
>   	if (global_orders > 0)
> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/khugepaged.c b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/khugepaged.c
> index 85bfff53dba6..9517ed99c382 100644
> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/khugepaged.c
> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/khugepaged.c
> @@ -502,7 +502,7 @@ static void __madvise_collapse(const char *msg, char *p, int nr_hpages,
>   	printf("%s...", msg);
>   
>   	settings.thp_enabled = THP_ALWAYS;
> -	settings.shmem_enabled = SHMEM_NEVER;
> +	settings.shmem_enabled = SHMEM_ALWAYS;
>   	thp_push_settings(&settings);

Same question as for the other case.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb

Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] mm: shmem: disallow hugepages if the system-wide shmem THP sysfs settings are disabled

Posted by Baolin Wang 7 months, 2 weeks ago


On 2025/6/23 21:59, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 23.06.25 10:28, Baolin Wang wrote:
>> When invoking thp_vma_allowable_orders(), if the TVA_ENFORCE_SYSFS 
>> flag is not
>> specified, we will ignore the THP sysfs settings. And the 
>> MADV_COLLAPSE is an
>> example of such a case.
>>
>> The MADV_COLLAPSE will ignore the system-wide shmem THP sysfs 
>> settings, which
>> means that even though we have disabled the shmem THP configuration, 
>> MADV_COLLAPSE
>> will still attempt to collapse into a shmem THP. This violates the 
>> rule we have
>> agreed upon: never means never.
>>
>> Another rule for madvise, referring to David's suggestion: “allowing 
>> for collapsing
>> in a VM without VM_HUGEPAGE in the "madvise" mode would be fine".
>>
>> To fix the MADV_COLLAPSE issue for shmem, then the current strategy 
>> should be:
>>
>> For shmem, if none of always, madvise, within_size, and inherit have 
>> enabled
>> PMD-sized THP, then MADV_COLLAPSE will be prohibited from collapsing 
>> PMD-sized THP.
> 
> I assume we could rephrase that to "For shmem, if "shmem_enabled" is set 
> to either "none" or "deny", then MADV_COLLAPSE will be prohibited from 
> collapsing."

Yes. Setting 'deny' will also prevent MADV_COLLAPSE(), and there is no 
'none' option for 'shmem_enabled'. Will update the commit mesasge to 
make it clear.

Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] mm: shmem: disallow hugepages if the system-wide shmem THP sysfs settings are disabled

Posted by Lorenzo Stoakes 7 months, 2 weeks ago

On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 04:28:09PM +0800, Baolin Wang wrote:
> When invoking thp_vma_allowable_orders(), if the TVA_ENFORCE_SYSFS flag is not
> specified, we will ignore the THP sysfs settings. And the MADV_COLLAPSE is an
> example of such a case.
>
> The MADV_COLLAPSE will ignore the system-wide shmem THP sysfs settings, which
> means that even though we have disabled the shmem THP configuration, MADV_COLLAPSE
> will still attempt to collapse into a shmem THP. This violates the rule we have
> agreed upon: never means never.
>
> Another rule for madvise, referring to David's suggestion: “allowing for collapsing
> in a VM without VM_HUGEPAGE in the "madvise" mode would be fine".
>
> To fix the MADV_COLLAPSE issue for shmem, then the current strategy should be:
>
> For shmem, if none of always, madvise, within_size, and inherit have enabled
> PMD-sized THP, then MADV_COLLAPSE will be prohibited from collapsing PMD-sized THP.
>
> For tmpfs, if the mount option is set with the 'huge=never' parameter, then
> MADV_COLLAPSE will be prohibited from collapsing PMD-sized THP.
>
> Meanwhile, we should fix the khugepaged selftest for shmem MADV_COLLAPSE by enabling
> shmem THP.
>
> Acked-by: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
> Signed-off-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>

LGTM, so:

Reviewed-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>

> ---
>  mm/shmem.c                              | 6 +++---
>  tools/testing/selftests/mm/khugepaged.c | 2 +-
>  2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/shmem.c b/mm/shmem.c
> index 2b19965d27df..e3f51fab2b7d 100644
> --- a/mm/shmem.c
> +++ b/mm/shmem.c
> @@ -637,7 +637,7 @@ static unsigned int shmem_huge_global_enabled(struct inode *inode, pgoff_t index
>  		return 0;
>  	if (shmem_huge == SHMEM_HUGE_DENY)
>  		return 0;
> -	if (shmem_huge_force || shmem_huge == SHMEM_HUGE_FORCE)
> +	if (shmem_huge == SHMEM_HUGE_FORCE)
>  		return maybe_pmd_order;
>
>  	/*
> @@ -672,7 +672,7 @@ static unsigned int shmem_huge_global_enabled(struct inode *inode, pgoff_t index
>
>  		fallthrough;
>  	case SHMEM_HUGE_ADVISE:
> -		if (vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE)
> +		if (shmem_huge_force || (vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE))
>  			return maybe_pmd_order;
>  		fallthrough;
>  	default:
> @@ -1806,7 +1806,7 @@ unsigned long shmem_allowable_huge_orders(struct inode *inode,
>  	/* Allow mTHP that will be fully within i_size. */
>  	mask |= shmem_get_orders_within_size(inode, within_size_orders, index, 0);
>
> -	if (vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE)
> +	if (shmem_huge_force || (vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE))
>  		mask |= READ_ONCE(huge_shmem_orders_madvise);
>
>  	if (global_orders > 0)
> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/khugepaged.c b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/khugepaged.c
> index 85bfff53dba6..9517ed99c382 100644
> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/khugepaged.c
> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/khugepaged.c
> @@ -502,7 +502,7 @@ static void __madvise_collapse(const char *msg, char *p, int nr_hpages,
>  	printf("%s...", msg);
>
>  	settings.thp_enabled = THP_ALWAYS;
> -	settings.shmem_enabled = SHMEM_NEVER;
> +	settings.shmem_enabled = SHMEM_ALWAYS;
>  	thp_push_settings(&settings);
>
>  	/* Clear VM_NOHUGEPAGE */
> --
> 2.43.5
>