[PATCH v5 3/6] dt-bindings: touchscreen: add touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns property

Dario Binacchi posted 6 patches 1 week, 6 days ago
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[PATCH v5 3/6] dt-bindings: touchscreen: add touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns property
Posted by Dario Binacchi 1 week, 6 days ago
Add support for glitch threshold configuration. A detected signal is valid
only if it lasts longer than the set threshold; otherwise, it is regarded
as a glitch.

Signed-off-by: Dario Binacchi <dario.binacchi@amarulasolutions.com>
Acked-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>

---

Changes in v5:
- Add Acked-by tag of Conor Dooley

Changes in v2:
- Added in v2.

 .../devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml    | 4 ++++
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
index 3e3572aa483a..a60b4d08620d 100644
--- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
@@ -206,6 +206,10 @@ properties:
 
         unevaluatedProperties: false
 
+  touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns:
+    description: Minimum duration in nanoseconds a signal must remain stable
+      to be considered valid.
+
 dependencies:
   touchscreen-size-x: [ touchscreen-size-y ]
   touchscreen-size-y: [ touchscreen-size-x ]
-- 
2.43.0
Re: [PATCH v5 3/6] dt-bindings: touchscreen: add touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns property
Posted by Rob Herring 1 week, 6 days ago
On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 05:52:31PM +0200, Dario Binacchi wrote:
> Add support for glitch threshold configuration. A detected signal is valid
> only if it lasts longer than the set threshold; otherwise, it is regarded
> as a glitch.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Dario Binacchi <dario.binacchi@amarulasolutions.com>
> Acked-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
> 
> ---
> 
> Changes in v5:
> - Add Acked-by tag of Conor Dooley
> 
> Changes in v2:
> - Added in v2.
> 
>  .../devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml    | 4 ++++
>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
> index 3e3572aa483a..a60b4d08620d 100644
> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
> @@ -206,6 +206,10 @@ properties:
>  
>          unevaluatedProperties: false
>  
> +  touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns:
> +    description: Minimum duration in nanoseconds a signal must remain stable
> +      to be considered valid.

What's wrong with debounce-delay-ms?
Re: [PATCH v5 3/6] dt-bindings: touchscreen: add touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns property
Posted by Dario Binacchi 1 week, 6 days ago
On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 10:04 PM Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 05:52:31PM +0200, Dario Binacchi wrote:
> > Add support for glitch threshold configuration. A detected signal is valid
> > only if it lasts longer than the set threshold; otherwise, it is regarded
> > as a glitch.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Dario Binacchi <dario.binacchi@amarulasolutions.com>
> > Acked-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Changes in v5:
> > - Add Acked-by tag of Conor Dooley
> >
> > Changes in v2:
> > - Added in v2.
> >
> >  .../devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml    | 4 ++++
> >  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
> > index 3e3572aa483a..a60b4d08620d 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
> > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
> > @@ -206,6 +206,10 @@ properties:
> >
> >          unevaluatedProperties: false
> >
> > +  touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns:
> > +    description: Minimum duration in nanoseconds a signal must remain stable
> > +      to be considered valid.
>
> What's wrong with debounce-delay-ms?

Do you mean that I should rename touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns to
debounce-delay-ms?

Thanks and regards,
Dario

-- 

Dario Binacchi

Senior Embedded Linux Developer

dario.binacchi@amarulasolutions.com

__________________________________


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Via Le Canevare 30, 31100 Treviso, Veneto, IT

T. +39 042 243 5310
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Re: [PATCH v5 3/6] dt-bindings: touchscreen: add touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns property
Posted by Rob Herring 1 week, 5 days ago
On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 10:37:37PM +0200, Dario Binacchi wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 10:04 PM Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 05:52:31PM +0200, Dario Binacchi wrote:
> > > Add support for glitch threshold configuration. A detected signal is valid
> > > only if it lasts longer than the set threshold; otherwise, it is regarded
> > > as a glitch.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Dario Binacchi <dario.binacchi@amarulasolutions.com>
> > > Acked-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Changes in v5:
> > > - Add Acked-by tag of Conor Dooley
> > >
> > > Changes in v2:
> > > - Added in v2.
> > >
> > >  .../devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml    | 4 ++++
> > >  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
> > > index 3e3572aa483a..a60b4d08620d 100644
> > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
> > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
> > > @@ -206,6 +206,10 @@ properties:
> > >
> > >          unevaluatedProperties: false
> > >
> > > +  touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns:
> > > +    description: Minimum duration in nanoseconds a signal must remain stable
> > > +      to be considered valid.
> >
> > What's wrong with debounce-delay-ms?
> 
> Do you mean that I should rename touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns to
> debounce-delay-ms?

I mean that's the common property we already have, so use it or explain 
why you aren't using it. I suppose the definition is technically a bit 
different if it's purely a s/w delay vs. h/w monitoring of the signal 
state. I don't think it matters if the interpretation by each driver is 
a bit different.

Maybe msec is not enough resolution for you could be another reason? 
Looks like your h/w supports that assuming the clock frequency is 10s 
of MHz. But are touchscreen glitches really in sub msec times? Not in my 
experience, but that's 20 years ago on resistive touchscreens...

Rob
Re: [PATCH v5 3/6] dt-bindings: touchscreen: add touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns property
Posted by Dario Binacchi 1 week, 5 days ago
On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 4:38 PM Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 10:37:37PM +0200, Dario Binacchi wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 10:04 PM Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 05:52:31PM +0200, Dario Binacchi wrote:
> > > > Add support for glitch threshold configuration. A detected signal is valid
> > > > only if it lasts longer than the set threshold; otherwise, it is regarded
> > > > as a glitch.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Dario Binacchi <dario.binacchi@amarulasolutions.com>
> > > > Acked-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > > Changes in v5:
> > > > - Add Acked-by tag of Conor Dooley
> > > >
> > > > Changes in v2:
> > > > - Added in v2.
> > > >
> > > >  .../devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml    | 4 ++++
> > > >  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
> > > > index 3e3572aa483a..a60b4d08620d 100644
> > > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
> > > > @@ -206,6 +206,10 @@ properties:
> > > >
> > > >          unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > >
> > > > +  touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns:
> > > > +    description: Minimum duration in nanoseconds a signal must remain stable
> > > > +      to be considered valid.
> > >
> > > What's wrong with debounce-delay-ms?
> >
> > Do you mean that I should rename touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns to
> > debounce-delay-ms?
>
> I mean that's the common property we already have, so use it or explain
> why you aren't using it. I suppose the definition is technically a bit
> different if it's purely a s/w delay vs. h/w monitoring of the signal
> state. I don't think it matters if the interpretation by each driver is
> a bit different.
>
> Maybe msec is not enough resolution for you could be another reason?

Yes, this is the main reason. As specified in the following patch:
  v5 4/6 dt-bindings: touchscreen: fsl,imx6ul-tsc: support glitch threshold

Drivers must convert this value to IPG clock cycles and map
it to one of the four discrete thresholds exposed by the
TSC_DEBUG_MODE2 register:

  0: 8191 IPG cycles
  1: 4095 IPG cycles
  2: 2047 IPG cycles
  3: 1023 IPG cycles

In my case, the IPG clock runs at 66 MHz, which corresponds to:

124 µs for 0
62 µs for 1
31 us for 2
15 us for 3

So using milliseconds would not fit my use case. A possible trade-off
could be to use debounce-delay-us. Would that be acceptable?

Thanks and regards
Dario

> Looks like your h/w supports that assuming the clock frequency is 10s
> of MHz. But are touchscreen glitches really in sub msec times? Not in my
> experience, but that's 20 years ago on resistive touchscreens...
>
> Rob



-- 

Dario Binacchi

Senior Embedded Linux Developer

dario.binacchi@amarulasolutions.com

__________________________________


Amarula Solutions SRL

Via Le Canevare 30, 31100 Treviso, Veneto, IT

T. +39 042 243 5310
info@amarulasolutions.com

www.amarulasolutions.com
Re: [PATCH v5 3/6] dt-bindings: touchscreen: add touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns property
Posted by Rob Herring 1 week, 5 days ago
On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 05:12:42PM +0200, Dario Binacchi wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 4:38 PM Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 10:37:37PM +0200, Dario Binacchi wrote:
> > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 10:04 PM Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 05:52:31PM +0200, Dario Binacchi wrote:
> > > > > Add support for glitch threshold configuration. A detected signal is valid
> > > > > only if it lasts longer than the set threshold; otherwise, it is regarded
> > > > > as a glitch.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Dario Binacchi <dario.binacchi@amarulasolutions.com>
> > > > > Acked-by: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > ---
> > > > >
> > > > > Changes in v5:
> > > > > - Add Acked-by tag of Conor Dooley
> > > > >
> > > > > Changes in v2:
> > > > > - Added in v2.
> > > > >
> > > > >  .../devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml    | 4 ++++
> > > > >  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
> > > > > index 3e3572aa483a..a60b4d08620d 100644
> > > > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
> > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/touchscreen.yaml
> > > > > @@ -206,6 +206,10 @@ properties:
> > > > >
> > > > >          unevaluatedProperties: false
> > > > >
> > > > > +  touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns:
> > > > > +    description: Minimum duration in nanoseconds a signal must remain stable
> > > > > +      to be considered valid.
> > > >
> > > > What's wrong with debounce-delay-ms?
> > >
> > > Do you mean that I should rename touchscreen-glitch-threshold-ns to
> > > debounce-delay-ms?
> >
> > I mean that's the common property we already have, so use it or explain
> > why you aren't using it. I suppose the definition is technically a bit
> > different if it's purely a s/w delay vs. h/w monitoring of the signal
> > state. I don't think it matters if the interpretation by each driver is
> > a bit different.
> >
> > Maybe msec is not enough resolution for you could be another reason?
> 
> Yes, this is the main reason. As specified in the following patch:
>   v5 4/6 dt-bindings: touchscreen: fsl,imx6ul-tsc: support glitch threshold
> 
> Drivers must convert this value to IPG clock cycles and map
> it to one of the four discrete thresholds exposed by the
> TSC_DEBUG_MODE2 register:
> 
>   0: 8191 IPG cycles
>   1: 4095 IPG cycles
>   2: 2047 IPG cycles
>   3: 1023 IPG cycles
> 
> In my case, the IPG clock runs at 66 MHz, which corresponds to:
> 
> 124 µs for 0
> 62 µs for 1
> 31 us for 2
> 15 us for 3
> 
> So using milliseconds would not fit my use case. A possible trade-off
> could be to use debounce-delay-us. Would that be acceptable?

I agree it wouldn't map to what the h/w provides, but is what the h/w 
provides actually useful? There's plenty of h/w designed that's not 
useful. 15us is quite short for a glitch. Do you have an actual cases 
where the different values above are needed?

Rob