The "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible is utilized in a system configuration
where the Cortex-M4 firmware is loaded by the Trusted Execution Environment
(TEE).
For instance, this compatible is used in both the Linux and OP-TEE device
trees:
- In OP-TEE, a node is defined in the device tree with the
"st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible to support signed remoteproc firmware.
Based on DT properties, the OP-TEE remoteproc framework is initiated to
expose a trusted application service to authenticate and load the remote
processor firmware provided by the Linux remoteproc framework, as well
as to start and stop the remote processor.
- In Linux, when the compatibility is set, the Cortex-M resets should not
be declared in the device tree. In such a configuration, the reset is
managed by the OP-TEE remoteproc driver and is no longer accessible from
the Linux kernel.
Associated with this new compatible, add the "st,proc-id" property to
identify the remote processor. This ID is used to define a unique ID,
common between Linux, U-Boot, and OP-TEE, to identify a coprocessor.
This ID will be used in requests to the OP-TEE remoteproc Trusted
Application to specify the remote processor.
Signed-off-by: Arnaud Pouliquen <arnaud.pouliquen@foss.st.com>
Reviewed-by: Rob Herring (Arm) <robh@kernel.org>
---
.../bindings/remoteproc/st,stm32-rproc.yaml | 58 ++++++++++++++++---
1 file changed, 50 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/remoteproc/st,stm32-rproc.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/remoteproc/st,stm32-rproc.yaml
index 843679c557e7..58da07e536fc 100644
--- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/remoteproc/st,stm32-rproc.yaml
+++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/remoteproc/st,stm32-rproc.yaml
@@ -16,7 +16,12 @@ maintainers:
properties:
compatible:
- const: st,stm32mp1-m4
+ enum:
+ - st,stm32mp1-m4
+ - st,stm32mp1-m4-tee
+ description:
+ Use "st,stm32mp1-m4" for the Cortex-M4 coprocessor management by non-secure context
+ Use "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" for the Cortex-M4 coprocessor management by secure context
reg:
description:
@@ -43,6 +48,10 @@ properties:
- description: The offset of the hold boot setting register
- description: The field mask of the hold boot
+ st,proc-id:
+ description: remote processor identifier
+ $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
+
st,syscfg-tz:
deprecated: true
description:
@@ -146,21 +155,43 @@ properties:
required:
- compatible
- reg
- - resets
allOf:
- if:
properties:
- reset-names:
- not:
- contains:
- const: hold_boot
+ compatible:
+ contains:
+ const: st,stm32mp1-m4
then:
+ if:
+ properties:
+ reset-names:
+ not:
+ contains:
+ const: hold_boot
+ then:
+ required:
+ - st,syscfg-holdboot
+ else:
+ properties:
+ st,syscfg-holdboot: false
+ required:
+ - reset-names
required:
- - st,syscfg-holdboot
- else:
+ - resets
+
+ - if:
+ properties:
+ compatible:
+ contains:
+ const: st,stm32mp1-m4-tee
+ then:
properties:
st,syscfg-holdboot: false
+ reset-names: false
+ resets: false
+ required:
+ - st,proc-id
additionalProperties: false
@@ -192,5 +223,16 @@ examples:
st,syscfg-rsc-tbl = <&tamp 0x144 0xFFFFFFFF>;
st,syscfg-m4-state = <&tamp 0x148 0xFFFFFFFF>;
};
+ - |
+ #include <dt-bindings/reset/stm32mp1-resets.h>
+ m4@10000000 {
+ compatible = "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee";
+ reg = <0x10000000 0x40000>,
+ <0x30000000 0x40000>,
+ <0x38000000 0x10000>;
+ st,proc-id = <0>;
+ st,syscfg-rsc-tbl = <&tamp 0x144 0xFFFFFFFF>;
+ st,syscfg-m4-state = <&tamp 0x148 0xFFFFFFFF>;
+ };
...
--
2.25.1
Hi Arnaud, First of all apologies for such a late review comment as previously I wasn't CCed or involved in the review of this patch-set. In case any of my following comments have been discussed in the past then feel free to point me at relevant discussions. On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:40:26AM +0200, Arnaud Pouliquen wrote: > The "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible is utilized in a system configuration > where the Cortex-M4 firmware is loaded by the Trusted Execution Environment > (TEE). Having a DT based compatible for a TEE service to me just feels like it is redundant here. I can see you have also used a TEE bus based device too but that is not being properly used. I know subsystems like remoteproc, SCMI and others heavily rely on DT to hardcode properties of system firmware which are rather better to be discovered dynamically. So I have an open question for you and the remoteproc subsystem maintainers being: Is it feasible to rather leverage the benefits of a fully discoverable TEE bus rather than relying on platform bus/ DT to hardcode firmware properties? > > For instance, this compatible is used in both the Linux and OP-TEE device > trees: > - In OP-TEE, a node is defined in the device tree with the > "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible to support signed remoteproc firmware. > Based on DT properties, the OP-TEE remoteproc framework is initiated to > expose a trusted application service to authenticate and load the remote > processor firmware provided by the Linux remoteproc framework, as well > as to start and stop the remote processor. > - In Linux, when the compatibility is set, the Cortex-M resets should not > be declared in the device tree. In such a configuration, the reset is > managed by the OP-TEE remoteproc driver and is no longer accessible from > the Linux kernel. > > Associated with this new compatible, add the "st,proc-id" property to > identify the remote processor. This ID is used to define a unique ID, > common between Linux, U-Boot, and OP-TEE, to identify a coprocessor. This "st,proc-id" is just one such property which can rather be directly probed from the TEE/OP-TEE service rather than hardcoding it in DT here. I think the same will apply to other properties as well. -Sumit > This ID will be used in requests to the OP-TEE remoteproc Trusted > Application to specify the remote processor. > > Signed-off-by: Arnaud Pouliquen <arnaud.pouliquen@foss.st.com> > Reviewed-by: Rob Herring (Arm) <robh@kernel.org> > --- > .../bindings/remoteproc/st,stm32-rproc.yaml | 58 ++++++++++++++++--- > 1 file changed, 50 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/remoteproc/st,stm32-rproc.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/remoteproc/st,stm32-rproc.yaml > index 843679c557e7..58da07e536fc 100644 > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/remoteproc/st,stm32-rproc.yaml > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/remoteproc/st,stm32-rproc.yaml > @@ -16,7 +16,12 @@ maintainers: > > properties: > compatible: > - const: st,stm32mp1-m4 > + enum: > + - st,stm32mp1-m4 > + - st,stm32mp1-m4-tee > + description: > + Use "st,stm32mp1-m4" for the Cortex-M4 coprocessor management by non-secure context > + Use "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" for the Cortex-M4 coprocessor management by secure context > > reg: > description: > @@ -43,6 +48,10 @@ properties: > - description: The offset of the hold boot setting register > - description: The field mask of the hold boot > > + st,proc-id: > + description: remote processor identifier > + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32 > + > st,syscfg-tz: > deprecated: true > description: > @@ -146,21 +155,43 @@ properties: > required: > - compatible > - reg > - - resets > > allOf: > - if: > properties: > - reset-names: > - not: > - contains: > - const: hold_boot > + compatible: > + contains: > + const: st,stm32mp1-m4 > then: > + if: > + properties: > + reset-names: > + not: > + contains: > + const: hold_boot > + then: > + required: > + - st,syscfg-holdboot > + else: > + properties: > + st,syscfg-holdboot: false > + required: > + - reset-names > required: > - - st,syscfg-holdboot > - else: > + - resets > + > + - if: > + properties: > + compatible: > + contains: > + const: st,stm32mp1-m4-tee > + then: > properties: > st,syscfg-holdboot: false > + reset-names: false > + resets: false > + required: > + - st,proc-id > > additionalProperties: false > > @@ -192,5 +223,16 @@ examples: > st,syscfg-rsc-tbl = <&tamp 0x144 0xFFFFFFFF>; > st,syscfg-m4-state = <&tamp 0x148 0xFFFFFFFF>; > }; > + - | > + #include <dt-bindings/reset/stm32mp1-resets.h> > + m4@10000000 { > + compatible = "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee"; > + reg = <0x10000000 0x40000>, > + <0x30000000 0x40000>, > + <0x38000000 0x10000>; > + st,proc-id = <0>; > + st,syscfg-rsc-tbl = <&tamp 0x144 0xFFFFFFFF>; > + st,syscfg-m4-state = <&tamp 0x148 0xFFFFFFFF>; > + }; > > ... > -- > 2.25.1 > >
Hello Sumit, On 9/16/25 11:14, Sumit Garg wrote: > Hi Arnaud, > > First of all apologies for such a late review comment as previously I > wasn't CCed or involved in the review of this patch-set. In case any of > my following comments have been discussed in the past then feel free to > point me at relevant discussions. No worries, there are too many versions of this series to follow all the past discussions. I sometimes have difficulty remembering all the discussions myself :) > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:40:26AM +0200, Arnaud Pouliquen wrote: >> The "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible is utilized in a system configuration >> where the Cortex-M4 firmware is loaded by the Trusted Execution Environment >> (TEE). > Having a DT based compatible for a TEE service to me just feels like it > is redundant here. I can see you have also used a TEE bus based device > too but that is not being properly used. I know subsystems like > remoteproc, SCMI and others heavily rely on DT to hardcode properties of > system firmware which are rather better to be discovered dynamically. > > So I have an open question for you and the remoteproc subsystem > maintainers being: > > Is it feasible to rather leverage the benefits of a fully discoverable > TEE bus rather than relying on platform bus/ DT to hardcode firmware > properties? The discoverable TEE bus does not works if the remoteproc is probed before the OP-TEE bus, in such case no possibility to know if the TEE TA is not yet available or not available at all. This point is mentioned in a comment in rproc_tee_register(). Then, it is not only a firmware property in our case. Depending on the compatible string, we manage the hardware differently. The same compatibles are used in both OP-TEE and Linux. Based on the compatible, we can assign memories, clocks, and resets to either the secure or non-secure context. This approach is implemented on the STM32MP15 and STM32MP2x platforms. More details are available in the ST WIKI: https://wiki.st.com/stm32mpu/wiki/OP-TEE_remoteproc_framework_overview#Device_tree_configuration https://wiki.st.com/stm32mpu/wiki/Linux_remoteproc_framework_overview#Device_tree_configuration > >> For instance, this compatible is used in both the Linux and OP-TEE device >> trees: >> - In OP-TEE, a node is defined in the device tree with the >> "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible to support signed remoteproc firmware. >> Based on DT properties, the OP-TEE remoteproc framework is initiated to >> expose a trusted application service to authenticate and load the remote >> processor firmware provided by the Linux remoteproc framework, as well >> as to start and stop the remote processor. >> - In Linux, when the compatibility is set, the Cortex-M resets should not >> be declared in the device tree. In such a configuration, the reset is >> managed by the OP-TEE remoteproc driver and is no longer accessible from >> the Linux kernel. >> >> Associated with this new compatible, add the "st,proc-id" property to >> identify the remote processor. This ID is used to define a unique ID, >> common between Linux, U-Boot, and OP-TEE, to identify a coprocessor. > This "st,proc-id" is just one such property which can rather be directly > probed from the TEE/OP-TEE service rather than hardcoding it in DT here. Do you mean a topology discovery mechanism through the TEE remoteproc service? For the STM32MP15, it could work since we have only one remote processor. However, this is not the case for the STM32MP25, which embeds both a Cortex-M33 and a Cortex-M0. Could you please elaborate on how you see the support of multiple remote processors without using an hardcoded identifier? > I think the same will apply to other properties as well. Could you details the other properties you have in mind? Thanks, Arnaud > > -Sumit > >> This ID will be used in requests to the OP-TEE remoteproc Trusted >> Application to specify the remote processor. >> >> Signed-off-by: Arnaud Pouliquen <arnaud.pouliquen@foss.st.com> >> Reviewed-by: Rob Herring (Arm) <robh@kernel.org> >> --- >> .../bindings/remoteproc/st,stm32-rproc.yaml | 58 ++++++++++++++++--- >> 1 file changed, 50 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) >> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/remoteproc/st,stm32-rproc.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/remoteproc/st,stm32-rproc.yaml >> index 843679c557e7..58da07e536fc 100644 >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/remoteproc/st,stm32-rproc.yaml >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/remoteproc/st,stm32-rproc.yaml >> @@ -16,7 +16,12 @@ maintainers: >> >> properties: >> compatible: >> - const: st,stm32mp1-m4 >> + enum: >> + - st,stm32mp1-m4 >> + - st,stm32mp1-m4-tee >> + description: >> + Use "st,stm32mp1-m4" for the Cortex-M4 coprocessor management by non-secure context >> + Use "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" for the Cortex-M4 coprocessor management by secure context >> >> reg: >> description: >> @@ -43,6 +48,10 @@ properties: >> - description: The offset of the hold boot setting register >> - description: The field mask of the hold boot >> >> + st,proc-id: >> + description: remote processor identifier >> + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32 >> + >> st,syscfg-tz: >> deprecated: true >> description: >> @@ -146,21 +155,43 @@ properties: >> required: >> - compatible >> - reg >> - - resets >> >> allOf: >> - if: >> properties: >> - reset-names: >> - not: >> - contains: >> - const: hold_boot >> + compatible: >> + contains: >> + const: st,stm32mp1-m4 >> then: >> + if: >> + properties: >> + reset-names: >> + not: >> + contains: >> + const: hold_boot >> + then: >> + required: >> + - st,syscfg-holdboot >> + else: >> + properties: >> + st,syscfg-holdboot: false >> + required: >> + - reset-names >> required: >> - - st,syscfg-holdboot >> - else: >> + - resets >> + >> + - if: >> + properties: >> + compatible: >> + contains: >> + const: st,stm32mp1-m4-tee >> + then: >> properties: >> st,syscfg-holdboot: false >> + reset-names: false >> + resets: false >> + required: >> + - st,proc-id >> >> additionalProperties: false >> >> @@ -192,5 +223,16 @@ examples: >> st,syscfg-rsc-tbl = <&tamp 0x144 0xFFFFFFFF>; >> st,syscfg-m4-state = <&tamp 0x148 0xFFFFFFFF>; >> }; >> + - | >> + #include <dt-bindings/reset/stm32mp1-resets.h> >> + m4@10000000 { >> + compatible = "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee"; >> + reg = <0x10000000 0x40000>, >> + <0x30000000 0x40000>, >> + <0x38000000 0x10000>; >> + st,proc-id = <0>; >> + st,syscfg-rsc-tbl = <&tamp 0x144 0xFFFFFFFF>; >> + st,syscfg-m4-state = <&tamp 0x148 0xFFFFFFFF>; >> + }; >> >> ... >> -- >> 2.25.1 >> >>
On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 03:26:47PM +0200, Arnaud POULIQUEN wrote: > Hello Sumit, > > On 9/16/25 11:14, Sumit Garg wrote: > > Hi Arnaud, > > > > First of all apologies for such a late review comment as previously I > > wasn't CCed or involved in the review of this patch-set. In case any of > > my following comments have been discussed in the past then feel free to > > point me at relevant discussions. > > No worries, there are too many versions of this series to follow all the > past discussions. I sometimes have difficulty remembering all the > discussions myself :) > > > > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:40:26AM +0200, Arnaud Pouliquen wrote: > > > The "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible is utilized in a system configuration > > > where the Cortex-M4 firmware is loaded by the Trusted Execution Environment > > > (TEE). > > Having a DT based compatible for a TEE service to me just feels like it > > is redundant here. I can see you have also used a TEE bus based device > > too but that is not being properly used. I know subsystems like > > remoteproc, SCMI and others heavily rely on DT to hardcode properties of > > system firmware which are rather better to be discovered dynamically. > > > > So I have an open question for you and the remoteproc subsystem > > maintainers being: > > > > Is it feasible to rather leverage the benefits of a fully discoverable > > TEE bus rather than relying on platform bus/ DT to hardcode firmware > > properties? > > The discoverable TEE bus does not works if the remoteproc is probed > before the OP-TEE bus, in such case no possibility to know if the TEE > TA is not yet available or not available at all. > This point is mentioned in a comment in rproc_tee_register(). The reason here is that you are mixing platform and TEE bus for remoteproc driver. For probe, you rely on platform bus and then try to migrate to TEE bus via rproc_tee_register() is the problem here. Instead you should rather probe remoteproc device on TEE bus from the beginning. > > Then, it is not only a firmware property in our case. Depending on the > compatible string, we manage the hardware differently. The same compatibles > are used in both OP-TEE and Linux. Based on the compatible, we can assign > memories, clocks, and resets to either the secure or non-secure context. > This approach is implemented on the STM32MP15 and STM32MP2x platforms. You should have rather used the DT property "secure-status" [1] to say the remoteproc device is being managed by OP-TEE instead of Linux. Then the Linux driver will solely rely on TEE bus to have OP-TEE mediated remoteproc device. [1] https://github.com/devicetree-org/dt-schema/blob/4b28bc79fdc552f3e0b870ef1362bb711925f4f3/dtschema/schemas/dt-core.yaml#L52 > > More details are available in the ST WIKI: > https://wiki.st.com/stm32mpu/wiki/OP-TEE_remoteproc_framework_overview#Device_tree_configuration > https://wiki.st.com/stm32mpu/wiki/Linux_remoteproc_framework_overview#Device_tree_configuration > > > > > > For instance, this compatible is used in both the Linux and OP-TEE device > > > trees: > > > - In OP-TEE, a node is defined in the device tree with the > > > "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible to support signed remoteproc firmware. > > > Based on DT properties, the OP-TEE remoteproc framework is initiated to > > > expose a trusted application service to authenticate and load the remote > > > processor firmware provided by the Linux remoteproc framework, as well > > > as to start and stop the remote processor. > > > - In Linux, when the compatibility is set, the Cortex-M resets should not > > > be declared in the device tree. In such a configuration, the reset is > > > managed by the OP-TEE remoteproc driver and is no longer accessible from > > > the Linux kernel. > > > > > > Associated with this new compatible, add the "st,proc-id" property to > > > identify the remote processor. This ID is used to define a unique ID, > > > common between Linux, U-Boot, and OP-TEE, to identify a coprocessor. > > This "st,proc-id" is just one such property which can rather be directly > > probed from the TEE/OP-TEE service rather than hardcoding it in DT here. > Do you mean a topology discovery mechanism through the TEE remoteproc > service? > > For the STM32MP15, it could work since we have only one remote processor. > However, this is not the case for the STM32MP25, which embeds both a > Cortex-M33 and a Cortex-M0. I rather mean here whichever properties you can currently dicovering via DT can rather be discovered by invoke command taking property name as input and value as output. > > Could you please elaborate on how you see the support of multiple remote > processors without using an hardcoded identifier? By multiple remote processors, do you mean there can be multiple combinations of which remote processor gets managed via OP-TEE or not? > > > I think the same will apply to other properties as well. > Could you details the other properties you have in mind? I think the memory regions including the resource table can also be probed directly from the TEE service too. Is there any other DT property you rely upon when remoteproc is managed via OP-TEE? -Sumit
On 9/17/25 12:08, Sumit Garg wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 03:26:47PM +0200, Arnaud POULIQUEN wrote: >> Hello Sumit, >> >> On 9/16/25 11:14, Sumit Garg wrote: >>> Hi Arnaud, >>> >>> First of all apologies for such a late review comment as previously I >>> wasn't CCed or involved in the review of this patch-set. In case any of >>> my following comments have been discussed in the past then feel free to >>> point me at relevant discussions. >> No worries, there are too many versions of this series to follow all the >> past discussions. I sometimes have difficulty remembering all the >> discussions myself :) >> >>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:40:26AM +0200, Arnaud Pouliquen wrote: >>>> The "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible is utilized in a system configuration >>>> where the Cortex-M4 firmware is loaded by the Trusted Execution Environment >>>> (TEE). >>> Having a DT based compatible for a TEE service to me just feels like it >>> is redundant here. I can see you have also used a TEE bus based device >>> too but that is not being properly used. I know subsystems like >>> remoteproc, SCMI and others heavily rely on DT to hardcode properties of >>> system firmware which are rather better to be discovered dynamically. >>> >>> So I have an open question for you and the remoteproc subsystem >>> maintainers being: >>> >>> Is it feasible to rather leverage the benefits of a fully discoverable >>> TEE bus rather than relying on platform bus/ DT to hardcode firmware >>> properties? >> The discoverable TEE bus does not works if the remoteproc is probed >> before the OP-TEE bus, in such case no possibility to know if the TEE >> TA is not yet available or not available at all. >> This point is mentioned in a comment in rproc_tee_register(). For the discussion, it’s probably better if I provide more details on the current OP-TEE implementation and the stm32mp processors. 1) STM32MP topology: - STM32MP1: only a Cortex-M4 remote processor - STM32MP2x: a Cortex-M33 and a Cortex-M0 remote processors At this stage, only the STM32MP15 is upstreamed; the STM32MP25 is waiting for this series to be merged. 2) OP-TEE architecture: - A platform-agnostic Trusted Application (TA) handles the bus service.[1] This TA supports managing multiple remote processors. It can be embedded regardless of the number of remote processors managed in OP-TEE. The decision to embed this service is made at build time based on the presence of the remoteproc driver, so it is not device tree dependent. - STM32MP15: TA activated only if the remoteproc OP-TEE driver is probed - STM32MP2x: TA always activated as the OP-TEE remoteproc driver is always probed - A pseudo Trusted Application implements the platform porting[2], relying on registered remoteproc platform drivers. - Platform driver(s) manage the remote processors.[3][4] - If remoteproc is managed by OP-TEE: manages the remoteproc lifecycle - If remoteproc is managed by Linux: provides access rights to Linux to manage the remoteproc - STM32MP15: driver probed only if the remoteproc is managed in OP-TEE - STM32MP2x: driver probed in both cases for the Cortex-M33 For the STM32MP25, the TA is always present and queries the driver to check if it supports secure loading. [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/op-tee/4.7.0/source/ta/remoteproc [2] https://elixir.bootlin.com/op-tee/4.7.0/source/core/pta/stm32mp/remoteproc_pta.c [3]https://elixir.bootlin.com/op-tee/4.7.0/source/core/drivers/remoteproc/stm32_remoteproc.c [4]https://github.com/STMicroelectronics/optee_os/blob/4.0.0-stm32mp/core/drivers/remoteproc/stm32_remoteproc.c > The reason here is that you are mixing platform and TEE bus for remoteproc > driver. For probe, you rely on platform bus and then try to migrate to > TEE bus via rproc_tee_register() is the problem here. Instead you should > rather probe remoteproc device on TEE bus from the beginning. The approach is interesting, but how can we rely on Device Tree (DT) for hardware configuration in this case? At a minimum, I need to define memory regions and mailboxes. From my perspective, I would still need a driver probed by DT that registers a driver on the TEE bus. Therefore, I still need a mechanism to decide whether the remote firmware is managed by the secure or non-secure context. Another issue would be to be able to share the remoteproc TEE service between several platform remoteproc drivers, in case of multi remote processor support. > >> Then, it is not only a firmware property in our case. Depending on the >> compatible string, we manage the hardware differently. The same compatibles >> are used in both OP-TEE and Linux. Based on the compatible, we can assign >> memories, clocks, and resets to either the secure or non-secure context. >> This approach is implemented on the STM32MP15 and STM32MP2x platforms. > You should have rather used the DT property "secure-status" [1] to say > the remoteproc device is being managed by OP-TEE instead of Linux. Then > the Linux driver will solely rely on TEE bus to have OP-TEE mediated > remoteproc device. > > [1] https://github.com/devicetree-org/dt-schema/blob/4b28bc79fdc552f3e0b870ef1362bb711925f4f3/dtschema/schemas/dt-core.yaml#L52 My issue with this property is that this would break the compatibility with legacy DT that only support loading by Linux As specified in [5] :If "secure-status" is not specified it defaults to the same value as "status"; [5] https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/secure.txt >> More details are available in the ST WIKI: >> https://wiki.st.com/stm32mpu/wiki/OP-TEE_remoteproc_framework_overview#Device_tree_configuration >> https://wiki.st.com/stm32mpu/wiki/Linux_remoteproc_framework_overview#Device_tree_configuration >> >>>> For instance, this compatible is used in both the Linux and OP-TEE device >>>> trees: >>>> - In OP-TEE, a node is defined in the device tree with the >>>> "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible to support signed remoteproc firmware. >>>> Based on DT properties, the OP-TEE remoteproc framework is initiated to >>>> expose a trusted application service to authenticate and load the remote >>>> processor firmware provided by the Linux remoteproc framework, as well >>>> as to start and stop the remote processor. >>>> - In Linux, when the compatibility is set, the Cortex-M resets should not >>>> be declared in the device tree. In such a configuration, the reset is >>>> managed by the OP-TEE remoteproc driver and is no longer accessible from >>>> the Linux kernel. >>>> >>>> Associated with this new compatible, add the "st,proc-id" property to >>>> identify the remote processor. This ID is used to define a unique ID, >>>> common between Linux, U-Boot, and OP-TEE, to identify a coprocessor. >>> This "st,proc-id" is just one such property which can rather be directly >>> probed from the TEE/OP-TEE service rather than hardcoding it in DT here. >> Do you mean a topology discovery mechanism through the TEE remoteproc >> service? >> >> For the STM32MP15, it could work since we have only one remote processor. >> However, this is not the case for the STM32MP25, which embeds both a >> Cortex-M33 and a Cortex-M0. > I rather mean here whichever properties you can currently dicovering via > DT can rather be discovered by invoke command taking property name as input > and value as output. That would means services to get system resources such as memory region mailbox, right? > >> Could you please elaborate on how you see the support of multiple remote >> processors without using an hardcoded identifier? > By multiple remote processors, do you mean there can be multiple > combinations of which remote processor gets managed via OP-TEE or not? On stm32mp25 we have 2 remote processors a cortex-M33 and a cortex-M0 We should be able to manage them using the proc_idAnother point is that We should allow an other Secure OS could implement the TEE remoteproc service managing the remote processors with different proc_id values, to avoid to specify somewhere an unique proc ID per remote processor. >>> I think the same will apply to other properties as well. >> Could you details the other properties you have in mind? > I think the memory regions including the resource table can also be > probed directly from the TEE service too. Is there any other DT property > you rely upon when remoteproc is managed via OP-TEE? The memory regions that include the resource table are already declared in OP-TEE. The memory regions defined in the Linux device tree are for RPMsg (IPC). These memories are registered by the Linux remoteproc driver in the Linux rproc core. Thanks, Arnaud > > -Sumit
On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 03:47:40PM +0200, Arnaud POULIQUEN wrote: > > > On 9/17/25 12:08, Sumit Garg wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 03:26:47PM +0200, Arnaud POULIQUEN wrote: > > > Hello Sumit, > > > > > > On 9/16/25 11:14, Sumit Garg wrote: > > > > Hi Arnaud, > > > > > > > > First of all apologies for such a late review comment as previously I > > > > wasn't CCed or involved in the review of this patch-set. In case any of > > > > my following comments have been discussed in the past then feel free to > > > > point me at relevant discussions. > > > No worries, there are too many versions of this series to follow all the > > > past discussions. I sometimes have difficulty remembering all the > > > discussions myself :) > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:40:26AM +0200, Arnaud Pouliquen wrote: > > > > > The "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible is utilized in a system configuration > > > > > where the Cortex-M4 firmware is loaded by the Trusted Execution Environment > > > > > (TEE). > > > > Having a DT based compatible for a TEE service to me just feels like it > > > > is redundant here. I can see you have also used a TEE bus based device > > > > too but that is not being properly used. I know subsystems like > > > > remoteproc, SCMI and others heavily rely on DT to hardcode properties of > > > > system firmware which are rather better to be discovered dynamically. > > > > > > > > So I have an open question for you and the remoteproc subsystem > > > > maintainers being: > > > > > > > > Is it feasible to rather leverage the benefits of a fully discoverable > > > > TEE bus rather than relying on platform bus/ DT to hardcode firmware > > > > properties? > > > The discoverable TEE bus does not works if the remoteproc is probed > > > before the OP-TEE bus, in such case no possibility to know if the TEE > > > TA is not yet available or not available at all. > > > This point is mentioned in a comment in rproc_tee_register(). > > For the discussion, it’s probably better if I provide more details on the > current OP-TEE implementation and the stm32mp processors. > > 1) STM32MP topology: > - STM32MP1: only a Cortex-M4 remote processor > - STM32MP2x: a Cortex-M33 and a Cortex-M0 remote processors > At this stage, only the STM32MP15 is upstreamed; the STM32MP25 is waiting > for this series to be merged. > > 2) OP-TEE architecture: > - A platform-agnostic Trusted Application (TA) handles the bus service.[1] > This TA supports managing multiple remote processors. It can be embedded > regardless of the number of remote processors managed in OP-TEE. > The decision to embed this service is made at build time based on the > presence of the remoteproc driver, so it is not device tree dependent. > - STM32MP15: TA activated only if the remoteproc OP-TEE driver is probed > - STM32MP2x: TA always activated as the OP-TEE remoteproc driver is always > probed > > - A pseudo Trusted Application implements the platform porting[2], > relying on registered remoteproc platform drivers. > > - Platform driver(s) manage the remote processors.[3][4] > - If remoteproc is managed by OP-TEE: manages the remoteproc lifecycle > - If remoteproc is managed by Linux: provides access rights to Linux to > manage > the remoteproc > > - STM32MP15: driver probed only if the remoteproc is managed in OP-TEE > - STM32MP2x: driver probed in both cases for the Cortex-M33 > For the STM32MP25, the TA is always present and queries the driver to > check > if it supports secure loading. > > > [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/op-tee/4.7.0/source/ta/remoteproc > [2] https://elixir.bootlin.com/op-tee/4.7.0/source/core/pta/stm32mp/remoteproc_pta.c > [3]https://elixir.bootlin.com/op-tee/4.7.0/source/core/drivers/remoteproc/stm32_remoteproc.c > [4]https://github.com/STMicroelectronics/optee_os/blob/4.0.0-stm32mp/core/drivers/remoteproc/stm32_remoteproc.c Thanks for the background here. > > > The reason here is that you are mixing platform and TEE bus for remoteproc > > driver. For probe, you rely on platform bus and then try to migrate to > > TEE bus via rproc_tee_register() is the problem here. Instead you should > > rather probe remoteproc device on TEE bus from the beginning. > > The approach is interesting, but how can we rely on Device Tree (DT) for > hardware configuration in this case? > At a minimum, I need to define memory regions and mailboxes. The hardware configuration in DT should be consumed by OP-TEE and the kernel probes remoteproc properties from OP-TEE since it's an OP-TEE mediated remoteproc service you are adding here. > > From my perspective, I would still need a driver probed by DT that registers > a driver on the TEE bus. Therefore, I still need a mechanism to decide > whether the remote firmware is managed by the secure or non-secure context. As I mentioned below, this should be achievable using the secure-status property without introducing the new compatible: Kernel managed remoteproc: status = "okay"; secure-status = "disabled"; /* NS-only */ OP-TEE managed remoteproc: status = "disabled"; secure-status = "okay"; /* S-only */ > > Another issue would be to be able to share the remoteproc TEE service > between > several platform remoteproc drivers, in case of multi remote processor > support. Making the TEE based remoteproc service independent of DT will surely make it more scalable to other platforms too. Have a look at how OP-TEE based HWRNG service scales across platforms. > > > > > > Then, it is not only a firmware property in our case. Depending on the > > > compatible string, we manage the hardware differently. The same compatibles > > > are used in both OP-TEE and Linux. Based on the compatible, we can assign > > > memories, clocks, and resets to either the secure or non-secure context. > > > This approach is implemented on the STM32MP15 and STM32MP2x platforms. > > You should have rather used the DT property "secure-status" [1] to say > > the remoteproc device is being managed by OP-TEE instead of Linux. Then > > the Linux driver will solely rely on TEE bus to have OP-TEE mediated > > remoteproc device. > > > > [1] https://github.com/devicetree-org/dt-schema/blob/4b28bc79fdc552f3e0b870ef1362bb711925f4f3/dtschema/schemas/dt-core.yaml#L52 > > My issue with this property is that this would break the compatibility with > legacy DT that only support loading by Linux No, it's not a DT ABI break at all. It is always possible for a hardware to be re-configured to change assignment of peripherals among OP-TEE and Linux kernel. > As specified in [5] :If "secure-status" is not specified it defaults to the > same value as "status"; [5] > https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/secure.txt This is mostly meant for peripherals that can be probed by both OP-TEE and Linux kernel via DT. But here in case of remoteproc, there needs to exclusive access control for either via Linux kernel or OP-TEE. Hence, the "status" and "secure-status" properties should be updated accordingly. > > > > More details are available in the ST WIKI: > > > https://wiki.st.com/stm32mpu/wiki/OP-TEE_remoteproc_framework_overview#Device_tree_configuration > > > https://wiki.st.com/stm32mpu/wiki/Linux_remoteproc_framework_overview#Device_tree_configuration > > > > > > > > For instance, this compatible is used in both the Linux and OP-TEE device > > > > > trees: > > > > > - In OP-TEE, a node is defined in the device tree with the > > > > > "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible to support signed remoteproc firmware. > > > > > Based on DT properties, the OP-TEE remoteproc framework is initiated to > > > > > expose a trusted application service to authenticate and load the remote > > > > > processor firmware provided by the Linux remoteproc framework, as well > > > > > as to start and stop the remote processor. > > > > > - In Linux, when the compatibility is set, the Cortex-M resets should not > > > > > be declared in the device tree. In such a configuration, the reset is > > > > > managed by the OP-TEE remoteproc driver and is no longer accessible from > > > > > the Linux kernel. > > > > > > > > > > Associated with this new compatible, add the "st,proc-id" property to > > > > > identify the remote processor. This ID is used to define a unique ID, > > > > > common between Linux, U-Boot, and OP-TEE, to identify a coprocessor. > > > > This "st,proc-id" is just one such property which can rather be directly > > > > probed from the TEE/OP-TEE service rather than hardcoding it in DT here. > > > Do you mean a topology discovery mechanism through the TEE remoteproc > > > service? > > > > > > For the STM32MP15, it could work since we have only one remote processor. > > > However, this is not the case for the STM32MP25, which embeds both a > > > Cortex-M33 and a Cortex-M0. > > I rather mean here whichever properties you can currently dicovering via > > DT can rather be discovered by invoke command taking property name as input > > and value as output. > > That would means services to get system resources such as memory region > mailbox, right? Yeah. > > > > > > Could you please elaborate on how you see the support of multiple remote > > > processors without using an hardcoded identifier? > > By multiple remote processors, do you mean there can be multiple > > combinations of which remote processor gets managed via OP-TEE or not? > > On stm32mp25 we have 2 remote processors a cortex-M33 and a cortex-M0 > We should be able to manage them using the proc_idAnother point is that We > should allow an other Secure OS could implement the TEE remoteproc service > managing the remote processors with different proc_id values, to avoid to > specify somewhere an unique proc ID per remote processor. Okay I see, so you can add unique proc ID to DT which gets consumed by OP-TEE and Linux discovers the same via the TEE service. > > > > > I think the same will apply to other properties as well. > > > Could you details the other properties you have in mind? > > I think the memory regions including the resource table can also be > > probed directly from the TEE service too. Is there any other DT property > > you rely upon when remoteproc is managed via OP-TEE? > > The memory regions that include the resource table are already declared > in OP-TEE. The memory regions defined in the Linux device tree are for > RPMsg (IPC). These memories are registered by the Linux remoteproc driver > in the Linux rproc core. > Sure, so they can also be discovered by TEE service. -Sumit
On 9/19/25 08:46, Sumit Garg wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 03:47:40PM +0200, Arnaud POULIQUEN wrote: >> >> On 9/17/25 12:08, Sumit Garg wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 03:26:47PM +0200, Arnaud POULIQUEN wrote: >>>> Hello Sumit, >>>> >>>> On 9/16/25 11:14, Sumit Garg wrote: >>>>> Hi Arnaud, >>>>> >>>>> First of all apologies for such a late review comment as previously I >>>>> wasn't CCed or involved in the review of this patch-set. In case any of >>>>> my following comments have been discussed in the past then feel free to >>>>> point me at relevant discussions. >>>> No worries, there are too many versions of this series to follow all the >>>> past discussions. I sometimes have difficulty remembering all the >>>> discussions myself :) >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:40:26AM +0200, Arnaud Pouliquen wrote: >>>>>> The "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible is utilized in a system configuration >>>>>> where the Cortex-M4 firmware is loaded by the Trusted Execution Environment >>>>>> (TEE). >>>>> Having a DT based compatible for a TEE service to me just feels like it >>>>> is redundant here. I can see you have also used a TEE bus based device >>>>> too but that is not being properly used. I know subsystems like >>>>> remoteproc, SCMI and others heavily rely on DT to hardcode properties of >>>>> system firmware which are rather better to be discovered dynamically. >>>>> >>>>> So I have an open question for you and the remoteproc subsystem >>>>> maintainers being: >>>>> >>>>> Is it feasible to rather leverage the benefits of a fully discoverable >>>>> TEE bus rather than relying on platform bus/ DT to hardcode firmware >>>>> properties? >>>> The discoverable TEE bus does not works if the remoteproc is probed >>>> before the OP-TEE bus, in such case no possibility to know if the TEE >>>> TA is not yet available or not available at all. >>>> This point is mentioned in a comment in rproc_tee_register(). >> For the discussion, it’s probably better if I provide more details on the >> current OP-TEE implementation and the stm32mp processors. >> >> 1) STM32MP topology: >> - STM32MP1: only a Cortex-M4 remote processor >> - STM32MP2x: a Cortex-M33 and a Cortex-M0 remote processors >> At this stage, only the STM32MP15 is upstreamed; the STM32MP25 is waiting >> for this series to be merged. >> >> 2) OP-TEE architecture: >> - A platform-agnostic Trusted Application (TA) handles the bus service.[1] >> This TA supports managing multiple remote processors. It can be embedded >> regardless of the number of remote processors managed in OP-TEE. >> The decision to embed this service is made at build time based on the >> presence of the remoteproc driver, so it is not device tree dependent. >> - STM32MP15: TA activated only if the remoteproc OP-TEE driver is probed >> - STM32MP2x: TA always activated as the OP-TEE remoteproc driver is always >> probed >> >> - A pseudo Trusted Application implements the platform porting[2], >> relying on registered remoteproc platform drivers. >> >> - Platform driver(s) manage the remote processors.[3][4] >> - If remoteproc is managed by OP-TEE: manages the remoteproc lifecycle >> - If remoteproc is managed by Linux: provides access rights to Linux to >> manage >> the remoteproc >> >> - STM32MP15: driver probed only if the remoteproc is managed in OP-TEE >> - STM32MP2x: driver probed in both cases for the Cortex-M33 >> For the STM32MP25, the TA is always present and queries the driver to >> check >> if it supports secure loading. >> >> >> [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/op-tee/4.7.0/source/ta/remoteproc >> [2] https://elixir.bootlin.com/op-tee/4.7.0/source/core/pta/stm32mp/remoteproc_pta.c >> [3]https://elixir.bootlin.com/op-tee/4.7.0/source/core/drivers/remoteproc/stm32_remoteproc.c >> [4]https://github.com/STMicroelectronics/optee_os/blob/4.0.0-stm32mp/core/drivers/remoteproc/stm32_remoteproc.c > Thanks for the background here. > >>> The reason here is that you are mixing platform and TEE bus for remoteproc >>> driver. For probe, you rely on platform bus and then try to migrate to >>> TEE bus via rproc_tee_register() is the problem here. Instead you should >>> rather probe remoteproc device on TEE bus from the beginning. >> The approach is interesting, but how can we rely on Device Tree (DT) for >> hardware configuration in this case? >> At a minimum, I need to define memory regions and mailboxes. > The hardware configuration in DT should be consumed by OP-TEE and the > kernel probes remoteproc properties from OP-TEE since it's an OP-TEE > mediated remoteproc service you are adding here. >> From my perspective, I would still need a driver probed by DT that registers >> a driver on the TEE bus. Therefore, I still need a mechanism to decide >> whether the remote firmware is managed by the secure or non-secure context. > As I mentioned below, this should be achievable using the secure-status > property without introducing the new compatible: > > Kernel managed remoteproc: > status = "okay"; secure-status = "disabled"; /* NS-only */ > > OP-TEE managed remoteproc: > status = "disabled"; secure-status = "okay"; /* S-only */ > >> Another issue would be to be able to share the remoteproc TEE service >> between >> several platform remoteproc drivers, in case of multi remote processor >> support. > Making the TEE based remoteproc service independent of DT will surely > make it more scalable to other platforms too. Have a look at how OP-TEE > based HWRNG service scales across platforms. Another important service is SCMI, which drivers use to manage clocks and resets. These clocks and resets are declared in the Device Tree (DT). It seems to me that in this case, we are closer to SCMI than to the RNG service. I propose we discuss this based on a concrete example with the STM32MP25. Although not yet upstreamed, our plan is to manage signed firmware for the Cortex-M33 and Cortex-M0. Please find below my view of the DT resources to address. STM32MP25 Cortex-M33 and Cortex-M0 nodes: m33_rproc { /* M33 watchdog interrupt */ interrupt-parent = <&intc>; interrupts = <GIC_SPI 4 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>; /* power domain management */ power-domains = <&cluster_pd>, <&ret_pd>; power-domain-names = "default", "sleep"; /* RPMsg mailboxes + M33 graceful shutdown request */ mboxes = <&ipcc1 0x0>, <&ipcc1 0x1>, <&ipcc1 2>; mbox-names = "vq0", "vq1", "shutdown"; memory-region = <&vdev0vring0>, <&vdev0vring1>, <&vdev0buffer>; status = "okay"; }; m0_rproc { /* mailbox for graceful shutdown */ mboxes = <&ipcc2 2>; mbox-names = "shutdown"; /* M0 watchdog */ interrupt-parent = <&intc>; interrupts = <GIC_SPI 7 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>; /* M0 peripheral clocking (not accessible by the M0) */ clocks = <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_GPIOZ_AM>, <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_GPIOZ>, <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_IPCC2>, <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_IPCC2_AM>, <&rcc CK_LPTIM3_AM>, <&rcc CK_LPUART1_AM>, <&rcc CK_CPU3_AM>, <&rcc CK_CPU3>, <&rcc CK_LPUART1_C3>, <&rcc CK_GPIOZ_C3>, <&rcc CK_LPTIM3_C3>, <&rcc CK_KER_LPUART1>, <&rcc CK_KER_LPTIM3>, <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_GPIOZ>, <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_IPCC2>; status = "okay"; }; If we want to remove the DT, we need to consider: - Mechanism to differentiate Cortex-M33 and Cortex-M0: Similar to SCMI, the remoteproc OP-TEE service should support multiprocessor setups without instantiating multiple services. - Mailboxes: A phandle is needed because the mailbox driver is managed by the Linux mailbox driver. STM32MP2 has two mailboxes. Moving towards your proposal would imply creating a mailbox service in TEE to manage non-secure mailboxes for non-secure IPC. This might not be efficient for inter-processor communication. Hardware-wise, it would require the IRQ to be handled by the secure context. - Memory regions: - Hardware limitation: OP-TEE is limited in the number of memory regions it can declare due to Firewall configuration. Moving IPC memory regions reaches this limit. Currently, OP-TEE defines a single region with shareable access rights, which Linux splits into at least three memory regions for RPMsg. - Memory mapping: Memory regions still need to be declared in Linux to prevent Linux from using them. - Virtio/RPMsg: Memory region names are fixed (e.g., dev<X>vring<Y>), so OP-TEE must declare memory regions in its DT according to Linux naming conventions. - Clock and reset: Some clocks and resets are managed via SCMI, others are not. This would require managing all clocks and resets through SCMI, with possible side effect on the "unused" clock mechanism in Linux ( to be confirmed) - Power domain: Information is needed at the Linux level to determine the low power mode. - Watchdog interrupt: Should be managed by OP-TEE, which requires the hardware to have an associated secure IRQ. - Miscellaneous vendor DT properties: How to be sure that these can be addressed through TEE services? Regarding the existing DT needs, it seems to me that removing the DT would require moving all node resource management into TEE ( if really possible). This would increase TEE complexity and footprint, reduce system efficiency, and make supporting other platforms less scalable. That said, it probably also depends on the TEE implementation. And we should support both. This could be done by introducing a second UUID. but in this case should it be the same driver? > >>>> Then, it is not only a firmware property in our case. Depending on the >>>> compatible string, we manage the hardware differently. The same compatibles >>>> are used in both OP-TEE and Linux. Based on the compatible, we can assign >>>> memories, clocks, and resets to either the secure or non-secure context. >>>> This approach is implemented on the STM32MP15 and STM32MP2x platforms. >>> You should have rather used the DT property "secure-status" [1] to say >>> the remoteproc device is being managed by OP-TEE instead of Linux. Then >>> the Linux driver will solely rely on TEE bus to have OP-TEE mediated >>> remoteproc device. >>> >>> [1] https://github.com/devicetree-org/dt-schema/blob/4b28bc79fdc552f3e0b870ef1362bb711925f4f3/dtschema/schemas/dt-core.yaml#L52 >> My issue with this property is that this would break the compatibility with >> legacy DT that only support loading by Linux > No, it's not a DT ABI break at all. It is always possible for a > hardware to be re-configured to change assignment of peripherals among > OP-TEE and Linux kernel. > >> As specified in [5] :If "secure-status" is not specified it defaults to the >> same value as "status"; [5] >> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/secure.txt > This is mostly meant for peripherals that can be probed by both OP-TEE > and Linux kernel via DT. But here in case of remoteproc, there needs to > exclusive access control for either via Linux kernel or OP-TEE. Hence, the > "status" and "secure-status" properties should be updated accordingly. > >>>> More details are available in the ST WIKI: >>>> https://wiki.st.com/stm32mpu/wiki/OP-TEE_remoteproc_framework_overview#Device_tree_configuration >>>> https://wiki.st.com/stm32mpu/wiki/Linux_remoteproc_framework_overview#Device_tree_configuration >>>> >>>>>> For instance, this compatible is used in both the Linux and OP-TEE device >>>>>> trees: >>>>>> - In OP-TEE, a node is defined in the device tree with the >>>>>> "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible to support signed remoteproc firmware. >>>>>> Based on DT properties, the OP-TEE remoteproc framework is initiated to >>>>>> expose a trusted application service to authenticate and load the remote >>>>>> processor firmware provided by the Linux remoteproc framework, as well >>>>>> as to start and stop the remote processor. >>>>>> - In Linux, when the compatibility is set, the Cortex-M resets should not >>>>>> be declared in the device tree. In such a configuration, the reset is >>>>>> managed by the OP-TEE remoteproc driver and is no longer accessible from >>>>>> the Linux kernel. >>>>>> >>>>>> Associated with this new compatible, add the "st,proc-id" property to >>>>>> identify the remote processor. This ID is used to define a unique ID, >>>>>> common between Linux, U-Boot, and OP-TEE, to identify a coprocessor. >>>>> This "st,proc-id" is just one such property which can rather be directly >>>>> probed from the TEE/OP-TEE service rather than hardcoding it in DT here. >>>> Do you mean a topology discovery mechanism through the TEE remoteproc >>>> service? >>>> >>>> For the STM32MP15, it could work since we have only one remote processor. >>>> However, this is not the case for the STM32MP25, which embeds both a >>>> Cortex-M33 and a Cortex-M0. >>> I rather mean here whichever properties you can currently dicovering via >>> DT can rather be discovered by invoke command taking property name as input >>> and value as output. >> That would means services to get system resources such as memory region >> mailbox, right? > Yeah. > >>>> Could you please elaborate on how you see the support of multiple remote >>>> processors without using an hardcoded identifier? >>> By multiple remote processors, do you mean there can be multiple >>> combinations of which remote processor gets managed via OP-TEE or not? >> On stm32mp25 we have 2 remote processors a cortex-M33 and a cortex-M0 >> We should be able to manage them using the proc_idAnother point is that We >> should allow an other Secure OS could implement the TEE remoteproc service >> managing the remote processors with different proc_id values, to avoid to >> specify somewhere an unique proc ID per remote processor. > Okay I see, so you can add unique proc ID to DT which gets consumed by > OP-TEE and Linux discovers the same via the TEE service. Yes the Linux passes the proc ID as argument of the tee_client_open_session(). In OP-TEE, the TEE service checks the match with the proc ID registered by the OP-TEE remote proc drivers. Regards, Arnaud > >>>>> I think the same will apply to other properties as well. >>>> Could you details the other properties you have in mind? >>> I think the memory regions including the resource table can also be >>> probed directly from the TEE service too. Is there any other DT property >>> you rely upon when remoteproc is managed via OP-TEE? >> The memory regions that include the resource table are already declared >> in OP-TEE. The memory regions defined in the Linux device tree are for >> RPMsg (IPC). These memories are registered by the Linux remoteproc driver >> in the Linux rproc core. >> > Sure, so they can also be discovered by TEE service. > > -Sumit
Hello Bjorn, Mathieu, Sumit, On 9/22/25 10:57, Arnaud POULIQUEN wrote: > > > On 9/19/25 08:46, Sumit Garg wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 03:47:40PM +0200, Arnaud POULIQUEN wrote: >>> >>> On 9/17/25 12:08, Sumit Garg wrote: >>>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 03:26:47PM +0200, Arnaud POULIQUEN wrote: >>>>> Hello Sumit, >>>>> >>>>> On 9/16/25 11:14, Sumit Garg wrote: >>>>>> Hi Arnaud, >>>>>> >>>>>> First of all apologies for such a late review comment as previously I >>>>>> wasn't CCed or involved in the review of this patch-set. In case >>>>>> any of >>>>>> my following comments have been discussed in the past then feel >>>>>> free to >>>>>> point me at relevant discussions. >>>>> No worries, there are too many versions of this series to follow >>>>> all the >>>>> past discussions. I sometimes have difficulty remembering all the >>>>> discussions myself :) >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:40:26AM +0200, Arnaud Pouliquen wrote: >>>>>>> The "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible is utilized in a system >>>>>>> configuration >>>>>>> where the Cortex-M4 firmware is loaded by the Trusted Execution >>>>>>> Environment >>>>>>> (TEE). >>>>>> Having a DT based compatible for a TEE service to me just feels >>>>>> like it >>>>>> is redundant here. I can see you have also used a TEE bus based >>>>>> device >>>>>> too but that is not being properly used. I know subsystems like >>>>>> remoteproc, SCMI and others heavily rely on DT to hardcode >>>>>> properties of >>>>>> system firmware which are rather better to be discovered dynamically. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I have an open question for you and the remoteproc subsystem >>>>>> maintainers being: >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it feasible to rather leverage the benefits of a fully >>>>>> discoverable >>>>>> TEE bus rather than relying on platform bus/ DT to hardcode firmware >>>>>> properties? >>>>> The discoverable TEE bus does not works if the remoteproc is probed >>>>> before the OP-TEE bus, in such case no possibility to know if the TEE >>>>> TA is not yet available or not available at all. >>>>> This point is mentioned in a comment in rproc_tee_register(). >>> For the discussion, it’s probably better if I provide more details on >>> the >>> current OP-TEE implementation and the stm32mp processors. >>> >>> 1) STM32MP topology: >>> - STM32MP1: only a Cortex-M4 remote processor >>> - STM32MP2x: a Cortex-M33 and a Cortex-M0 remote processors >>> At this stage, only the STM32MP15 is upstreamed; the STM32MP25 is >>> waiting >>> for this series to be merged. >>> >>> 2) OP-TEE architecture: >>> - A platform-agnostic Trusted Application (TA) handles the bus >>> service.[1] >>> This TA supports managing multiple remote processors. It can be >>> embedded >>> regardless of the number of remote processors managed in OP-TEE. >>> The decision to embed this service is made at build time based on the >>> presence of the remoteproc driver, so it is not device tree >>> dependent. >>> - STM32MP15: TA activated only if the remoteproc OP-TEE driver is >>> probed >>> - STM32MP2x: TA always activated as the OP-TEE remoteproc driver >>> is always >>> probed >>> >>> - A pseudo Trusted Application implements the platform porting[2], >>> relying on registered remoteproc platform drivers. >>> >>> - Platform driver(s) manage the remote processors.[3][4] >>> - If remoteproc is managed by OP-TEE: manages the remoteproc >>> lifecycle >>> - If remoteproc is managed by Linux: provides access rights to >>> Linux to >>> manage >>> the remoteproc >>> >>> - STM32MP15: driver probed only if the remoteproc is managed in >>> OP-TEE >>> - STM32MP2x: driver probed in both cases for the Cortex-M33 >>> For the STM32MP25, the TA is always present and queries the >>> driver to >>> check >>> if it supports secure loading. >>> >>> >>> [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/op-tee/4.7.0/source/ta/remoteproc >>> [2] https://elixir.bootlin.com/op-tee/4.7.0/source/core/pta/stm32mp/ >>> remoteproc_pta.c >>> [3]https://elixir.bootlin.com/op-tee/4.7.0/source/core/drivers/ >>> remoteproc/stm32_remoteproc.c >>> [4]https://github.com/STMicroelectronics/optee_os/blob/4.0.0-stm32mp/ >>> core/drivers/remoteproc/stm32_remoteproc.c >> Thanks for the background here. >> >>>> The reason here is that you are mixing platform and TEE bus for >>>> remoteproc >>>> driver. For probe, you rely on platform bus and then try to migrate to >>>> TEE bus via rproc_tee_register() is the problem here. Instead you >>>> should >>>> rather probe remoteproc device on TEE bus from the beginning. >>> The approach is interesting, but how can we rely on Device Tree (DT) for >>> hardware configuration in this case? >>> At a minimum, I need to define memory regions and mailboxes. >> The hardware configuration in DT should be consumed by OP-TEE and the >> kernel probes remoteproc properties from OP-TEE since it's an OP-TEE >> mediated remoteproc service you are adding here. >>> From my perspective, I would still need a driver probed by DT that >>> registers >>> a driver on the TEE bus. Therefore, I still need a mechanism to decide >>> whether the remote firmware is managed by the secure or non-secure >>> context. >> As I mentioned below, this should be achievable using the secure-status >> property without introducing the new compatible: >> >> Kernel managed remoteproc: >> status = "okay"; secure-status = "disabled"; /* NS-only */ >> >> OP-TEE managed remoteproc: >> status = "disabled"; secure-status = "okay"; /* S-only */ >> >>> Another issue would be to be able to share the remoteproc TEE service >>> between >>> several platform remoteproc drivers, in case of multi remote processor >>> support. >> Making the TEE based remoteproc service independent of DT will surely >> make it more scalable to other platforms too. Have a look at how OP-TEE >> based HWRNG service scales across platforms. > > Another important service is SCMI, which drivers use to manage clocks > and resets. > These clocks and resets are declared in the Device Tree (DT). It seems > to me that > in this case, we are closer to SCMI than to the RNG service. > > I propose we discuss this based on a concrete example with the STM32MP25. > Although not yet upstreamed, our plan is to manage signed firmware for the > Cortex-M33 and Cortex-M0. > > Please find below my view of the DT resources to address. > > STM32MP25 Cortex-M33 and Cortex-M0 nodes: > > m33_rproc { > /* M33 watchdog interrupt */ > interrupt-parent = <&intc>; > interrupts = <GIC_SPI 4 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>; > /* power domain management */ > power-domains = <&cluster_pd>, <&ret_pd>; > power-domain-names = "default", "sleep"; > /* RPMsg mailboxes + M33 graceful shutdown request */ > mboxes = <&ipcc1 0x0>, <&ipcc1 0x1>, <&ipcc1 2>; > mbox-names = "vq0", "vq1", "shutdown"; > memory-region = <&vdev0vring0>, <&vdev0vring1>, <&vdev0buffer>; > status = "okay"; > }; > > m0_rproc { > /* mailbox for graceful shutdown */ > mboxes = <&ipcc2 2>; > mbox-names = "shutdown"; > /* M0 watchdog */ > interrupt-parent = <&intc>; > interrupts = <GIC_SPI 7 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>; > /* M0 peripheral clocking (not accessible by the M0) */ > clocks = <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_GPIOZ_AM>, > <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_GPIOZ>, > <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_IPCC2>, > <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_IPCC2_AM>, > <&rcc CK_LPTIM3_AM>, > <&rcc CK_LPUART1_AM>, > <&rcc CK_CPU3_AM>, > <&rcc CK_CPU3>, > <&rcc CK_LPUART1_C3>, > <&rcc CK_GPIOZ_C3>, > <&rcc CK_LPTIM3_C3>, > <&rcc CK_KER_LPUART1>, > <&rcc CK_KER_LPTIM3>, > <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_GPIOZ>, > <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_IPCC2>; > status = "okay"; > }; > > If we want to remove the DT, we need to consider: > > - Mechanism to differentiate Cortex-M33 and Cortex-M0: > Similar to SCMI, the remoteproc OP-TEE service should support > multiprocessor setups without instantiating multiple services. > > - Mailboxes: > > A phandle is needed because the mailbox driver is managed by the > Linux mailbox driver. STM32MP2 has two mailboxes. > Moving towards your proposal would imply creating a mailbox service > in TEE to manage non-secure mailboxes for non-secure IPC. This might > not be efficient for inter-processor communication. Hardware-wise, it > would require the IRQ to be handled by the secure context. > > - Memory regions: > - Hardware limitation: OP-TEE is limited in the number of memory regions > it can declare due to Firewall configuration. Moving IPC memory regions > reaches this limit. Currently, OP-TEE defines a single region with > shareable > access rights, which Linux splits into at least three memory regions > for RPMsg. > - Memory mapping: Memory regions still need to be declared in Linux to > prevent > Linux from using them. > - Virtio/RPMsg: Memory region names are fixed (e.g., dev<X>vring<Y>), > so OP-TEE > must declare memory regions in its DT according to Linux naming > conventions. > > - Clock and reset: > Some clocks and resets are managed via SCMI, others are not. This > would require > managing all clocks and resets through SCMI, with possible side > effect on the > "unused" clock mechanism in Linux ( to be confirmed) > > - Power domain: > Information is needed at the Linux level to determine the low power > mode. > > - Watchdog interrupt: > Should be managed by OP-TEE, which requires the hardware to have an > associated > secure IRQ. > > - Miscellaneous vendor DT properties: > How to be sure that these can be addressed through TEE services? > > Regarding the existing DT needs, it seems to me that removing the DT > would require > moving all node resource management into TEE ( if really possible). This > would > increase TEE complexity and footprint, reduce system efficiency, and > make supporting > other platforms less scalable. > > That said, it probably also depends on the TEE implementation. > And we should support both. This could be done by introducing a second > UUID. > but in this case should it be the same driver? I am unsure how to move forward here. It seems to me that addressing Sumit's request for a TEE without a device tree is not compatible with the current OP-TEE implementation, at least for the STM32MP platforms. Perhaps the simplest approach is to abandon the effort to make this generic and instead rename tee_remoteproc.c to stm32_tee_remoteproc.c, making it platform-dependent. Then, if another platform wants to reuse it with OP-TEE FFA or another TEE, the file can be renamed. Does this proposal would make sense to you? Thanks and Regards, Arnaud > >> >>>>> Then, it is not only a firmware property in our case. Depending on the >>>>> compatible string, we manage the hardware differently. The same >>>>> compatibles >>>>> are used in both OP-TEE and Linux. Based on the compatible, we can >>>>> assign >>>>> memories, clocks, and resets to either the secure or non-secure >>>>> context. >>>>> This approach is implemented on the STM32MP15 and STM32MP2x platforms. >>>> You should have rather used the DT property "secure-status" [1] to say >>>> the remoteproc device is being managed by OP-TEE instead of Linux. Then >>>> the Linux driver will solely rely on TEE bus to have OP-TEE mediated >>>> remoteproc device. >>>> >>>> [1] https://github.com/devicetree-org/dt-schema/ >>>> blob/4b28bc79fdc552f3e0b870ef1362bb711925f4f3/dtschema/schemas/dt- >>>> core.yaml#L52 >>> My issue with this property is that this would break the >>> compatibility with >>> legacy DT that only support loading by Linux >> No, it's not a DT ABI break at all. It is always possible for a >> hardware to be re-configured to change assignment of peripherals among >> OP-TEE and Linux kernel. >> >>> As specified in [5] :If "secure-status" is not specified it defaults >>> to the >>> same value as "status"; [5] >>> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/ >>> secure.txt >> This is mostly meant for peripherals that can be probed by both OP-TEE >> and Linux kernel via DT. But here in case of remoteproc, there needs to >> exclusive access control for either via Linux kernel or OP-TEE. Hence, >> the >> "status" and "secure-status" properties should be updated accordingly. >> >>>>> More details are available in the ST WIKI: >>>>> https://wiki.st.com/stm32mpu/wiki/OP- >>>>> TEE_remoteproc_framework_overview#Device_tree_configuration >>>>> https://wiki.st.com/stm32mpu/wiki/ >>>>> Linux_remoteproc_framework_overview#Device_tree_configuration >>>>> >>>>>>> For instance, this compatible is used in both the Linux and OP- >>>>>>> TEE device >>>>>>> trees: >>>>>>> - In OP-TEE, a node is defined in the device tree with the >>>>>>> "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible to support signed remoteproc >>>>>>> firmware. >>>>>>> Based on DT properties, the OP-TEE remoteproc framework is >>>>>>> initiated to >>>>>>> expose a trusted application service to authenticate and >>>>>>> load the remote >>>>>>> processor firmware provided by the Linux remoteproc >>>>>>> framework, as well >>>>>>> as to start and stop the remote processor. >>>>>>> - In Linux, when the compatibility is set, the Cortex-M resets >>>>>>> should not >>>>>>> be declared in the device tree. In such a configuration, the >>>>>>> reset is >>>>>>> managed by the OP-TEE remoteproc driver and is no longer >>>>>>> accessible from >>>>>>> the Linux kernel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Associated with this new compatible, add the "st,proc-id" >>>>>>> property to >>>>>>> identify the remote processor. This ID is used to define a unique >>>>>>> ID, >>>>>>> common between Linux, U-Boot, and OP-TEE, to identify a coprocessor. >>>>>> This "st,proc-id" is just one such property which can rather be >>>>>> directly >>>>>> probed from the TEE/OP-TEE service rather than hardcoding it in DT >>>>>> here. >>>>> Do you mean a topology discovery mechanism through the TEE remoteproc >>>>> service? >>>>> >>>>> For the STM32MP15, it could work since we have only one remote >>>>> processor. >>>>> However, this is not the case for the STM32MP25, which embeds both a >>>>> Cortex-M33 and a Cortex-M0. >>>> I rather mean here whichever properties you can currently dicovering >>>> via >>>> DT can rather be discovered by invoke command taking property name >>>> as input >>>> and value as output. >>> That would means services to get system resources such as memory region >>> mailbox, right? >> Yeah. >> >>>>> Could you please elaborate on how you see the support of multiple >>>>> remote >>>>> processors without using an hardcoded identifier? >>>> By multiple remote processors, do you mean there can be multiple >>>> combinations of which remote processor gets managed via OP-TEE or not? >>> On stm32mp25 we have 2 remote processors a cortex-M33 and a cortex-M0 >>> We should be able to manage them using the proc_idAnother point is >>> that We >>> should allow an other Secure OS could implement the TEE remoteproc >>> service >>> managing the remote processors with different proc_id values, to >>> avoid to >>> specify somewhere an unique proc ID per remote processor. >> Okay I see, so you can add unique proc ID to DT which gets consumed by >> OP-TEE and Linux discovers the same via the TEE service. > Yes the Linux passes the proc ID as argument of the > tee_client_open_session(). > In OP-TEE, the TEE service checks the match with the proc ID registered > by the > OP-TEE remote proc drivers. > > Regards, > Arnaud > >> >>>>>> I think the same will apply to other properties as well. >>>>> Could you details the other properties you have in mind? >>>> I think the memory regions including the resource table can also be >>>> probed directly from the TEE service too. Is there any other DT >>>> property >>>> you rely upon when remoteproc is managed via OP-TEE? >>> The memory regions that include the resource table are already declared >>> in OP-TEE. The memory regions defined in the Linux device tree are for >>> RPMsg (IPC). These memories are registered by the Linux remoteproc >>> driver >>> in the Linux rproc core. >>> >> Sure, so they can also be discovered by TEE service. >> >> -Sumit > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-stm32 mailing list > Linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com > https://st-md-mailman.stormreply.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-stm32
On Tue, 7 Oct 2025 at 07:50, Arnaud POULIQUEN <arnaud.pouliquen@foss.st.com> wrote: > > Hello Bjorn, Mathieu, Sumit, > > On 9/22/25 10:57, Arnaud POULIQUEN wrote: > > > > > > On 9/19/25 08:46, Sumit Garg wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 03:47:40PM +0200, Arnaud POULIQUEN wrote: > >>> > >>> On 9/17/25 12:08, Sumit Garg wrote: > >>>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 03:26:47PM +0200, Arnaud POULIQUEN wrote: > >>>>> Hello Sumit, > >>>>> > >>>>> On 9/16/25 11:14, Sumit Garg wrote: > >>>>>> Hi Arnaud, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> First of all apologies for such a late review comment as previously I > >>>>>> wasn't CCed or involved in the review of this patch-set. In case > >>>>>> any of > >>>>>> my following comments have been discussed in the past then feel > >>>>>> free to > >>>>>> point me at relevant discussions. > >>>>> No worries, there are too many versions of this series to follow > >>>>> all the > >>>>> past discussions. I sometimes have difficulty remembering all the > >>>>> discussions myself :) > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:40:26AM +0200, Arnaud Pouliquen wrote: > >>>>>>> The "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible is utilized in a system > >>>>>>> configuration > >>>>>>> where the Cortex-M4 firmware is loaded by the Trusted Execution > >>>>>>> Environment > >>>>>>> (TEE). > >>>>>> Having a DT based compatible for a TEE service to me just feels > >>>>>> like it > >>>>>> is redundant here. I can see you have also used a TEE bus based > >>>>>> device > >>>>>> too but that is not being properly used. I know subsystems like > >>>>>> remoteproc, SCMI and others heavily rely on DT to hardcode > >>>>>> properties of > >>>>>> system firmware which are rather better to be discovered dynamically. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So I have an open question for you and the remoteproc subsystem > >>>>>> maintainers being: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Is it feasible to rather leverage the benefits of a fully > >>>>>> discoverable > >>>>>> TEE bus rather than relying on platform bus/ DT to hardcode firmware > >>>>>> properties? > >>>>> The discoverable TEE bus does not works if the remoteproc is probed > >>>>> before the OP-TEE bus, in such case no possibility to know if the TEE > >>>>> TA is not yet available or not available at all. > >>>>> This point is mentioned in a comment in rproc_tee_register(). > >>> For the discussion, it’s probably better if I provide more details on > >>> the > >>> current OP-TEE implementation and the stm32mp processors. > >>> > >>> 1) STM32MP topology: > >>> - STM32MP1: only a Cortex-M4 remote processor > >>> - STM32MP2x: a Cortex-M33 and a Cortex-M0 remote processors > >>> At this stage, only the STM32MP15 is upstreamed; the STM32MP25 is > >>> waiting > >>> for this series to be merged. > >>> > >>> 2) OP-TEE architecture: > >>> - A platform-agnostic Trusted Application (TA) handles the bus > >>> service.[1] > >>> This TA supports managing multiple remote processors. It can be > >>> embedded > >>> regardless of the number of remote processors managed in OP-TEE. > >>> The decision to embed this service is made at build time based on the > >>> presence of the remoteproc driver, so it is not device tree > >>> dependent. > >>> - STM32MP15: TA activated only if the remoteproc OP-TEE driver is > >>> probed > >>> - STM32MP2x: TA always activated as the OP-TEE remoteproc driver > >>> is always > >>> probed > >>> > >>> - A pseudo Trusted Application implements the platform porting[2], > >>> relying on registered remoteproc platform drivers. > >>> > >>> - Platform driver(s) manage the remote processors.[3][4] > >>> - If remoteproc is managed by OP-TEE: manages the remoteproc > >>> lifecycle > >>> - If remoteproc is managed by Linux: provides access rights to > >>> Linux to > >>> manage > >>> the remoteproc > >>> > >>> - STM32MP15: driver probed only if the remoteproc is managed in > >>> OP-TEE > >>> - STM32MP2x: driver probed in both cases for the Cortex-M33 > >>> For the STM32MP25, the TA is always present and queries the > >>> driver to > >>> check > >>> if it supports secure loading. > >>> > >>> > >>> [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/op-tee/4.7.0/source/ta/remoteproc > >>> [2] https://elixir.bootlin.com/op-tee/4.7.0/source/core/pta/stm32mp/ > >>> remoteproc_pta.c > >>> [3]https://elixir.bootlin.com/op-tee/4.7.0/source/core/drivers/ > >>> remoteproc/stm32_remoteproc.c > >>> [4]https://github.com/STMicroelectronics/optee_os/blob/4.0.0-stm32mp/ > >>> core/drivers/remoteproc/stm32_remoteproc.c > >> Thanks for the background here. > >> > >>>> The reason here is that you are mixing platform and TEE bus for > >>>> remoteproc > >>>> driver. For probe, you rely on platform bus and then try to migrate to > >>>> TEE bus via rproc_tee_register() is the problem here. Instead you > >>>> should > >>>> rather probe remoteproc device on TEE bus from the beginning. > >>> The approach is interesting, but how can we rely on Device Tree (DT) for > >>> hardware configuration in this case? > >>> At a minimum, I need to define memory regions and mailboxes. > >> The hardware configuration in DT should be consumed by OP-TEE and the > >> kernel probes remoteproc properties from OP-TEE since it's an OP-TEE > >> mediated remoteproc service you are adding here. > >>> From my perspective, I would still need a driver probed by DT that > >>> registers > >>> a driver on the TEE bus. Therefore, I still need a mechanism to decide > >>> whether the remote firmware is managed by the secure or non-secure > >>> context. > >> As I mentioned below, this should be achievable using the secure-status > >> property without introducing the new compatible: > >> > >> Kernel managed remoteproc: > >> status = "okay"; secure-status = "disabled"; /* NS-only */ > >> > >> OP-TEE managed remoteproc: > >> status = "disabled"; secure-status = "okay"; /* S-only */ > >> > >>> Another issue would be to be able to share the remoteproc TEE service > >>> between > >>> several platform remoteproc drivers, in case of multi remote processor > >>> support. > >> Making the TEE based remoteproc service independent of DT will surely > >> make it more scalable to other platforms too. Have a look at how OP-TEE > >> based HWRNG service scales across platforms. > > > > Another important service is SCMI, which drivers use to manage clocks > > and resets. > > These clocks and resets are declared in the Device Tree (DT). It seems > > to me that > > in this case, we are closer to SCMI than to the RNG service. > > > > I propose we discuss this based on a concrete example with the STM32MP25. > > Although not yet upstreamed, our plan is to manage signed firmware for the > > Cortex-M33 and Cortex-M0. > > > > Please find below my view of the DT resources to address. > > > > STM32MP25 Cortex-M33 and Cortex-M0 nodes: > > > > m33_rproc { > > /* M33 watchdog interrupt */ > > interrupt-parent = <&intc>; > > interrupts = <GIC_SPI 4 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>; > > /* power domain management */ > > power-domains = <&cluster_pd>, <&ret_pd>; > > power-domain-names = "default", "sleep"; > > /* RPMsg mailboxes + M33 graceful shutdown request */ > > mboxes = <&ipcc1 0x0>, <&ipcc1 0x1>, <&ipcc1 2>; > > mbox-names = "vq0", "vq1", "shutdown"; > > memory-region = <&vdev0vring0>, <&vdev0vring1>, <&vdev0buffer>; > > status = "okay"; > > }; > > > > m0_rproc { > > /* mailbox for graceful shutdown */ > > mboxes = <&ipcc2 2>; > > mbox-names = "shutdown"; > > /* M0 watchdog */ > > interrupt-parent = <&intc>; > > interrupts = <GIC_SPI 7 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>; > > /* M0 peripheral clocking (not accessible by the M0) */ > > clocks = <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_GPIOZ_AM>, > > <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_GPIOZ>, > > <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_IPCC2>, > > <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_IPCC2_AM>, > > <&rcc CK_LPTIM3_AM>, > > <&rcc CK_LPUART1_AM>, > > <&rcc CK_CPU3_AM>, > > <&rcc CK_CPU3>, > > <&rcc CK_LPUART1_C3>, > > <&rcc CK_GPIOZ_C3>, > > <&rcc CK_LPTIM3_C3>, > > <&rcc CK_KER_LPUART1>, > > <&rcc CK_KER_LPTIM3>, > > <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_GPIOZ>, > > <&scmi_clk CK_SCMI_IPCC2>; > > status = "okay"; > > }; > > > > If we want to remove the DT, we need to consider: > > > > - Mechanism to differentiate Cortex-M33 and Cortex-M0: > > Similar to SCMI, the remoteproc OP-TEE service should support > > multiprocessor setups without instantiating multiple services. > > > > - Mailboxes: > > > > A phandle is needed because the mailbox driver is managed by the > > Linux mailbox driver. STM32MP2 has two mailboxes. > > Moving towards your proposal would imply creating a mailbox service > > in TEE to manage non-secure mailboxes for non-secure IPC. This might > > not be efficient for inter-processor communication. Hardware-wise, it > > would require the IRQ to be handled by the secure context. > > > > - Memory regions: > > - Hardware limitation: OP-TEE is limited in the number of memory regions > > it can declare due to Firewall configuration. Moving IPC memory regions > > reaches this limit. Currently, OP-TEE defines a single region with > > shareable > > access rights, which Linux splits into at least three memory regions > > for RPMsg. > > - Memory mapping: Memory regions still need to be declared in Linux to > > prevent > > Linux from using them. > > - Virtio/RPMsg: Memory region names are fixed (e.g., dev<X>vring<Y>), > > so OP-TEE > > must declare memory regions in its DT according to Linux naming > > conventions. > > > > - Clock and reset: > > Some clocks and resets are managed via SCMI, others are not. This > > would require > > managing all clocks and resets through SCMI, with possible side > > effect on the > > "unused" clock mechanism in Linux ( to be confirmed) > > > > - Power domain: > > Information is needed at the Linux level to determine the low power > > mode. > > > > - Watchdog interrupt: > > Should be managed by OP-TEE, which requires the hardware to have an > > associated > > secure IRQ. > > > > - Miscellaneous vendor DT properties: > > How to be sure that these can be addressed through TEE services? > > > > Regarding the existing DT needs, it seems to me that removing the DT > > would require > > moving all node resource management into TEE ( if really possible). This > > would > > increase TEE complexity and footprint, reduce system efficiency, and > > make supporting > > other platforms less scalable. > > > > That said, it probably also depends on the TEE implementation. > > And we should support both. This could be done by introducing a second > > UUID. > > but in this case should it be the same driver? > > I am unsure how to move forward here. It seems to me that addressing Sumit's > request for a TEE without a device tree is not compatible with the current > OP-TEE implementation, at least for the STM32MP platforms. > > Perhaps the simplest approach is to abandon the effort to make this generic > and instead rename tee_remoteproc.c to stm32_tee_remoteproc.c, making it > platform-dependent. Then, if another platform wants to reuse it with OP-TEE > FFA or another TEE, the file can be renamed. > > Does this proposal would make sense to you? I would certainly like to see a consensus, and more specifically, an implementation that follows what other drivers that interact with the secure world do. I currently do not have a clear understanding of what those other drivers do, and doing the research will take bandwidth that I also currently do not have. This situation is expected to persist at least until December. As such I see two avenues for this patchset: (1) You seek to find a solution that is amenable to you, Sumit, Abdellatif and Harshal (I had to add the latter two to this email thread). (2) You wait until December, and likely beyond, until I have time to do the research needed to advise on the way forward. > > Thanks and Regards, > Arnaud > > > > >> > >>>>> Then, it is not only a firmware property in our case. Depending on the > >>>>> compatible string, we manage the hardware differently. The same > >>>>> compatibles > >>>>> are used in both OP-TEE and Linux. Based on the compatible, we can > >>>>> assign > >>>>> memories, clocks, and resets to either the secure or non-secure > >>>>> context. > >>>>> This approach is implemented on the STM32MP15 and STM32MP2x platforms. > >>>> You should have rather used the DT property "secure-status" [1] to say > >>>> the remoteproc device is being managed by OP-TEE instead of Linux. Then > >>>> the Linux driver will solely rely on TEE bus to have OP-TEE mediated > >>>> remoteproc device. > >>>> > >>>> [1] https://github.com/devicetree-org/dt-schema/ > >>>> blob/4b28bc79fdc552f3e0b870ef1362bb711925f4f3/dtschema/schemas/dt- > >>>> core.yaml#L52 > >>> My issue with this property is that this would break the > >>> compatibility with > >>> legacy DT that only support loading by Linux > >> No, it's not a DT ABI break at all. It is always possible for a > >> hardware to be re-configured to change assignment of peripherals among > >> OP-TEE and Linux kernel. > >> > >>> As specified in [5] :If "secure-status" is not specified it defaults > >>> to the > >>> same value as "status"; [5] > >>> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/ > >>> secure.txt > >> This is mostly meant for peripherals that can be probed by both OP-TEE > >> and Linux kernel via DT. But here in case of remoteproc, there needs to > >> exclusive access control for either via Linux kernel or OP-TEE. Hence, > >> the > >> "status" and "secure-status" properties should be updated accordingly. > >> > >>>>> More details are available in the ST WIKI: > >>>>> https://wiki.st.com/stm32mpu/wiki/OP- > >>>>> TEE_remoteproc_framework_overview#Device_tree_configuration > >>>>> https://wiki.st.com/stm32mpu/wiki/ > >>>>> Linux_remoteproc_framework_overview#Device_tree_configuration > >>>>> > >>>>>>> For instance, this compatible is used in both the Linux and OP- > >>>>>>> TEE device > >>>>>>> trees: > >>>>>>> - In OP-TEE, a node is defined in the device tree with the > >>>>>>> "st,stm32mp1-m4-tee" compatible to support signed remoteproc > >>>>>>> firmware. > >>>>>>> Based on DT properties, the OP-TEE remoteproc framework is > >>>>>>> initiated to > >>>>>>> expose a trusted application service to authenticate and > >>>>>>> load the remote > >>>>>>> processor firmware provided by the Linux remoteproc > >>>>>>> framework, as well > >>>>>>> as to start and stop the remote processor. > >>>>>>> - In Linux, when the compatibility is set, the Cortex-M resets > >>>>>>> should not > >>>>>>> be declared in the device tree. In such a configuration, the > >>>>>>> reset is > >>>>>>> managed by the OP-TEE remoteproc driver and is no longer > >>>>>>> accessible from > >>>>>>> the Linux kernel. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Associated with this new compatible, add the "st,proc-id" > >>>>>>> property to > >>>>>>> identify the remote processor. This ID is used to define a unique > >>>>>>> ID, > >>>>>>> common between Linux, U-Boot, and OP-TEE, to identify a coprocessor. > >>>>>> This "st,proc-id" is just one such property which can rather be > >>>>>> directly > >>>>>> probed from the TEE/OP-TEE service rather than hardcoding it in DT > >>>>>> here. > >>>>> Do you mean a topology discovery mechanism through the TEE remoteproc > >>>>> service? > >>>>> > >>>>> For the STM32MP15, it could work since we have only one remote > >>>>> processor. > >>>>> However, this is not the case for the STM32MP25, which embeds both a > >>>>> Cortex-M33 and a Cortex-M0. > >>>> I rather mean here whichever properties you can currently dicovering > >>>> via > >>>> DT can rather be discovered by invoke command taking property name > >>>> as input > >>>> and value as output. > >>> That would means services to get system resources such as memory region > >>> mailbox, right? > >> Yeah. > >> > >>>>> Could you please elaborate on how you see the support of multiple > >>>>> remote > >>>>> processors without using an hardcoded identifier? > >>>> By multiple remote processors, do you mean there can be multiple > >>>> combinations of which remote processor gets managed via OP-TEE or not? > >>> On stm32mp25 we have 2 remote processors a cortex-M33 and a cortex-M0 > >>> We should be able to manage them using the proc_idAnother point is > >>> that We > >>> should allow an other Secure OS could implement the TEE remoteproc > >>> service > >>> managing the remote processors with different proc_id values, to > >>> avoid to > >>> specify somewhere an unique proc ID per remote processor. > >> Okay I see, so you can add unique proc ID to DT which gets consumed by > >> OP-TEE and Linux discovers the same via the TEE service. > > Yes the Linux passes the proc ID as argument of the > > tee_client_open_session(). > > In OP-TEE, the TEE service checks the match with the proc ID registered > > by the > > OP-TEE remote proc drivers. > > > > Regards, > > Arnaud > > > >> > >>>>>> I think the same will apply to other properties as well. > >>>>> Could you details the other properties you have in mind? > >>>> I think the memory regions including the resource table can also be > >>>> probed directly from the TEE service too. Is there any other DT > >>>> property > >>>> you rely upon when remoteproc is managed via OP-TEE? > >>> The memory regions that include the resource table are already declared > >>> in OP-TEE. The memory regions defined in the Linux device tree are for > >>> RPMsg (IPC). These memories are registered by the Linux remoteproc > >>> driver > >>> in the Linux rproc core. > >>> > >> Sure, so they can also be discovered by TEE service. > >> > >> -Sumit > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-stm32 mailing list > > Linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com > > https://st-md-mailman.stormreply.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-stm32 >
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