From: Will Deacon <willdeacon@google.com>
In preparation for switching to the architected timer as the primary
clockevents device, mark the cpuidle nodes with the 'local-timer-stop'
property to indicate that an alternative clockevents device must be
used for waking up from the "c2" idle state.
Signed-off-by: Will Deacon <willdeacon@google.com>
[Original commit from https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/gs/+/a896fd98638047989513d05556faebd28a62b27c]
Signed-off-by: Will McVicker <willmcvicker@google.com>
---
arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi | 3 +++
1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
index 3de3a758f113..fd0badf24e6f 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
+++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
@@ -155,6 +155,7 @@ ananke_cpu_sleep: cpu-ananke-sleep {
idle-state-name = "c2";
compatible = "arm,idle-state";
arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
+ local-timer-stop;
entry-latency-us = <70>;
exit-latency-us = <160>;
min-residency-us = <2000>;
@@ -164,6 +165,7 @@ enyo_cpu_sleep: cpu-enyo-sleep {
idle-state-name = "c2";
compatible = "arm,idle-state";
arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
+ local-timer-stop;
entry-latency-us = <150>;
exit-latency-us = <190>;
min-residency-us = <2500>;
@@ -173,6 +175,7 @@ hera_cpu_sleep: cpu-hera-sleep {
idle-state-name = "c2";
compatible = "arm,idle-state";
arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
+ local-timer-stop;
entry-latency-us = <235>;
exit-latency-us = <220>;
min-residency-us = <3500>;
--
2.49.0.472.ge94155a9ec-goog
On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 04:00:26PM -0700, Will McVicker wrote:
> From: Will Deacon <willdeacon@google.com>
>
> In preparation for switching to the architected timer as the primary
> clockevents device, mark the cpuidle nodes with the 'local-timer-stop'
> property to indicate that an alternative clockevents device must be
> used for waking up from the "c2" idle state.
>
> Signed-off-by: Will Deacon <willdeacon@google.com>
> [Original commit from https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/gs/+/a896fd98638047989513d05556faebd28a62b27c]
> Signed-off-by: Will McVicker <willmcvicker@google.com>
> ---
> arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi | 3 +++
> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> index 3de3a758f113..fd0badf24e6f 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> @@ -155,6 +155,7 @@ ananke_cpu_sleep: cpu-ananke-sleep {
> idle-state-name = "c2";
> compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> + local-timer-stop;
> entry-latency-us = <70>;
> exit-latency-us = <160>;
> min-residency-us = <2000>;
> @@ -164,6 +165,7 @@ enyo_cpu_sleep: cpu-enyo-sleep {
> idle-state-name = "c2";
> compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> + local-timer-stop;
> entry-latency-us = <150>;
> exit-latency-us = <190>;
> min-residency-us = <2500>;
> @@ -173,6 +175,7 @@ hera_cpu_sleep: cpu-hera-sleep {
> idle-state-name = "c2";
> compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> + local-timer-stop;
> entry-latency-us = <235>;
> exit-latency-us = <220>;
> min-residency-us = <3500>;
> --
> 2.49.0.472.ge94155a9ec-goog
>
Hi Will.
Are you using this property in production?
If so, have you noticed any performance improvements?
Thanks.
Youngmin
Hi Youngmin,
On 04/02/2025, Youngmin Nam wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 04:00:26PM -0700, Will McVicker wrote:
> > From: Will Deacon <willdeacon@google.com>
> >
> > In preparation for switching to the architected timer as the primary
> > clockevents device, mark the cpuidle nodes with the 'local-timer-stop'
> > property to indicate that an alternative clockevents device must be
> > used for waking up from the "c2" idle state.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Will Deacon <willdeacon@google.com>
> > [Original commit from https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/gs/+/a896fd98638047989513d05556faebd28a62b27c]
> > Signed-off-by: Will McVicker <willmcvicker@google.com>
> > ---
> > arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi | 3 +++
> > 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> > index 3de3a758f113..fd0badf24e6f 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> > +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> > @@ -155,6 +155,7 @@ ananke_cpu_sleep: cpu-ananke-sleep {
> > idle-state-name = "c2";
> > compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> > arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> > + local-timer-stop;
> > entry-latency-us = <70>;
> > exit-latency-us = <160>;
> > min-residency-us = <2000>;
> > @@ -164,6 +165,7 @@ enyo_cpu_sleep: cpu-enyo-sleep {
> > idle-state-name = "c2";
> > compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> > arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> > + local-timer-stop;
> > entry-latency-us = <150>;
> > exit-latency-us = <190>;
> > min-residency-us = <2500>;
> > @@ -173,6 +175,7 @@ hera_cpu_sleep: cpu-hera-sleep {
> > idle-state-name = "c2";
> > compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> > arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> > + local-timer-stop;
> > entry-latency-us = <235>;
> > exit-latency-us = <220>;
> > min-residency-us = <3500>;
> > --
> > 2.49.0.472.ge94155a9ec-goog
> >
> Hi Will.
>
> Are you using this property in production?
> If so, have you noticed any performance improvements?
On Pixel 6, I have only recently switched to using the arch_timer as the
default clocksource. I haven't noticed any major perf improvements to the main
benchmarks, but also haven't seen any regressions. Based on the ChromeOS perf
analysis in [1,2], there was a significant perf difference found.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-samsung-soc/CAJFHJrrgWGc4XGQB0ysLufAg3Wouz-aYXu97Sy2Kp=HzK+akVQ@mail.gmail.com/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-samsung-soc/CAASgrz2Nr69tpfC8ka9gbs2OvjLEGsvgAj4vBCFxhsamuFum7w@mail.gmail.com/
If it helps, I found that Pixel 8 and 9 devices (didn't check Pixel 7)
are already using the arch_timer with this 'local-timer-stop' as the default
clocksource in the production kernel.
Thanks,
Will
[...]
On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 02:59:31PM -0700, William McVicker wrote:
> Hi Youngmin,
>
> On 04/02/2025, Youngmin Nam wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 04:00:26PM -0700, Will McVicker wrote:
> > > From: Will Deacon <willdeacon@google.com>
> > >
> > > In preparation for switching to the architected timer as the primary
> > > clockevents device, mark the cpuidle nodes with the 'local-timer-stop'
> > > property to indicate that an alternative clockevents device must be
> > > used for waking up from the "c2" idle state.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Will Deacon <willdeacon@google.com>
> > > [Original commit from https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/gs/+/a896fd98638047989513d05556faebd28a62b27c]
> > > Signed-off-by: Will McVicker <willmcvicker@google.com>
> > > ---
> > > arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi | 3 +++
> > > 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> > > index 3de3a758f113..fd0badf24e6f 100644
> > > --- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> > > +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> > > @@ -155,6 +155,7 @@ ananke_cpu_sleep: cpu-ananke-sleep {
> > > idle-state-name = "c2";
> > > compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> > > arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> > > + local-timer-stop;
> > > entry-latency-us = <70>;
> > > exit-latency-us = <160>;
> > > min-residency-us = <2000>;
> > > @@ -164,6 +165,7 @@ enyo_cpu_sleep: cpu-enyo-sleep {
> > > idle-state-name = "c2";
> > > compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> > > arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> > > + local-timer-stop;
> > > entry-latency-us = <150>;
> > > exit-latency-us = <190>;
> > > min-residency-us = <2500>;
> > > @@ -173,6 +175,7 @@ hera_cpu_sleep: cpu-hera-sleep {
> > > idle-state-name = "c2";
> > > compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> > > arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> > > + local-timer-stop;
> > > entry-latency-us = <235>;
> > > exit-latency-us = <220>;
> > > min-residency-us = <3500>;
> > > --
> > > 2.49.0.472.ge94155a9ec-goog
> > >
> > Hi Will.
> >
> > Are you using this property in production?
> > If so, have you noticed any performance improvements?
>
> On Pixel 6, I have only recently switched to using the arch_timer as the
> default clocksource. I haven't noticed any major perf improvements to the main
> benchmarks, but also haven't seen any regressions. Based on the ChromeOS perf
> analysis in [1,2], there was a significant perf difference found.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-samsung-soc/CAJFHJrrgWGc4XGQB0ysLufAg3Wouz-aYXu97Sy2Kp=HzK+akVQ@mail.gmail.com/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-samsung-soc/CAASgrz2Nr69tpfC8ka9gbs2OvjLEGsvgAj4vBCFxhsamuFum7w@mail.gmail.com/
>
> If it helps, I found that Pixel 8 and 9 devices (didn't check Pixel 7)
> are already using the arch_timer with this 'local-timer-stop' as the default
> clocksource in the production kernel.
>
> Thanks,
> Will
>
> [...]
>
Hi Will,
Thanks for sharing the status of Pixel devices.
I agree that using the arch_timer as a clock source device brings significant benefits.
The links you shared are definitely related to that.
However, I would also like to know whether arch_timer is used as a clock event device in Pixel production.
Thanks,
Youngmin
On 04/03/2025, Youngmin Nam wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 02:59:31PM -0700, William McVicker wrote:
> > Hi Youngmin,
> >
> > On 04/02/2025, Youngmin Nam wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 04:00:26PM -0700, Will McVicker wrote:
> > > > From: Will Deacon <willdeacon@google.com>
> > > >
> > > > In preparation for switching to the architected timer as the primary
> > > > clockevents device, mark the cpuidle nodes with the 'local-timer-stop'
> > > > property to indicate that an alternative clockevents device must be
> > > > used for waking up from the "c2" idle state.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Will Deacon <willdeacon@google.com>
> > > > [Original commit from https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/gs/+/a896fd98638047989513d05556faebd28a62b27c]
> > > > Signed-off-by: Will McVicker <willmcvicker@google.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi | 3 +++
> > > > 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> > > > index 3de3a758f113..fd0badf24e6f 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> > > > @@ -155,6 +155,7 @@ ananke_cpu_sleep: cpu-ananke-sleep {
> > > > idle-state-name = "c2";
> > > > compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> > > > arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> > > > + local-timer-stop;
> > > > entry-latency-us = <70>;
> > > > exit-latency-us = <160>;
> > > > min-residency-us = <2000>;
> > > > @@ -164,6 +165,7 @@ enyo_cpu_sleep: cpu-enyo-sleep {
> > > > idle-state-name = "c2";
> > > > compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> > > > arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> > > > + local-timer-stop;
> > > > entry-latency-us = <150>;
> > > > exit-latency-us = <190>;
> > > > min-residency-us = <2500>;
> > > > @@ -173,6 +175,7 @@ hera_cpu_sleep: cpu-hera-sleep {
> > > > idle-state-name = "c2";
> > > > compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> > > > arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> > > > + local-timer-stop;
> > > > entry-latency-us = <235>;
> > > > exit-latency-us = <220>;
> > > > min-residency-us = <3500>;
> > > > --
> > > > 2.49.0.472.ge94155a9ec-goog
> > > >
> > > Hi Will.
> > >
> > > Are you using this property in production?
> > > If so, have you noticed any performance improvements?
> >
> > On Pixel 6, I have only recently switched to using the arch_timer as the
> > default clocksource. I haven't noticed any major perf improvements to the main
> > benchmarks, but also haven't seen any regressions. Based on the ChromeOS perf
> > analysis in [1,2], there was a significant perf difference found.
> >
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-samsung-soc/CAJFHJrrgWGc4XGQB0ysLufAg3Wouz-aYXu97Sy2Kp=HzK+akVQ@mail.gmail.com/
> > [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-samsung-soc/CAASgrz2Nr69tpfC8ka9gbs2OvjLEGsvgAj4vBCFxhsamuFum7w@mail.gmail.com/
> >
> > If it helps, I found that Pixel 8 and 9 devices (didn't check Pixel 7)
> > are already using the arch_timer with this 'local-timer-stop' as the default
> > clocksource in the production kernel.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Will
> >
> > [...]
> >
>
> Hi Will,
>
> Thanks for sharing the status of Pixel devices.
>
> I agree that using the arch_timer as a clock source device brings significant benefits.
> The links you shared are definitely related to that.
>
> However, I would also like to know whether arch_timer is used as a clock event device in Pixel production.
For Pixel 8 and 9, the arch_timer is used as both the clocksource and
clockevent device which is what my series is proposing for Pixel 6 upstream.
The MCT device is solely being used as the alternative clockevents device for
waking up from the "c2" state. The reason for using the arch_timer as the
clockevents device is because we were seeing hrtimer stability issues where
a 10ms interval timer would delay about 300ms-1s before starting the callback.
This resulted in several media-related latency issues.
Thanks,
Will
[...]
On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 11:39:23AM -0700, William McVicker wrote:
> On 04/03/2025, Youngmin Nam wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 02:59:31PM -0700, William McVicker wrote:
> > > Hi Youngmin,
> > >
> > > On 04/02/2025, Youngmin Nam wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 04:00:26PM -0700, Will McVicker wrote:
> > > > > From: Will Deacon <willdeacon@google.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > In preparation for switching to the architected timer as the primary
> > > > > clockevents device, mark the cpuidle nodes with the 'local-timer-stop'
> > > > > property to indicate that an alternative clockevents device must be
> > > > > used for waking up from the "c2" idle state.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Will Deacon <willdeacon@google.com>
> > > > > [Original commit from https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/gs/+/a896fd98638047989513d05556faebd28a62b27c]
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Will McVicker <willmcvicker@google.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > > arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi | 3 +++
> > > > > 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> > > > > index 3de3a758f113..fd0badf24e6f 100644
> > > > > --- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> > > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/exynos/google/gs101.dtsi
> > > > > @@ -155,6 +155,7 @@ ananke_cpu_sleep: cpu-ananke-sleep {
> > > > > idle-state-name = "c2";
> > > > > compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> > > > > arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> > > > > + local-timer-stop;
> > > > > entry-latency-us = <70>;
> > > > > exit-latency-us = <160>;
> > > > > min-residency-us = <2000>;
> > > > > @@ -164,6 +165,7 @@ enyo_cpu_sleep: cpu-enyo-sleep {
> > > > > idle-state-name = "c2";
> > > > > compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> > > > > arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> > > > > + local-timer-stop;
> > > > > entry-latency-us = <150>;
> > > > > exit-latency-us = <190>;
> > > > > min-residency-us = <2500>;
> > > > > @@ -173,6 +175,7 @@ hera_cpu_sleep: cpu-hera-sleep {
> > > > > idle-state-name = "c2";
> > > > > compatible = "arm,idle-state";
> > > > > arm,psci-suspend-param = <0x0010000>;
> > > > > + local-timer-stop;
> > > > > entry-latency-us = <235>;
> > > > > exit-latency-us = <220>;
> > > > > min-residency-us = <3500>;
> > > > > --
> > > > > 2.49.0.472.ge94155a9ec-goog
> > > > >
> > > > Hi Will.
> > > >
> > > > Are you using this property in production?
> > > > If so, have you noticed any performance improvements?
> > >
> > > On Pixel 6, I have only recently switched to using the arch_timer as the
> > > default clocksource. I haven't noticed any major perf improvements to the main
> > > benchmarks, but also haven't seen any regressions. Based on the ChromeOS perf
> > > analysis in [1,2], there was a significant perf difference found.
> > >
> > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-samsung-soc/CAJFHJrrgWGc4XGQB0ysLufAg3Wouz-aYXu97Sy2Kp=HzK+akVQ@mail.gmail.com/
> > > [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-samsung-soc/CAASgrz2Nr69tpfC8ka9gbs2OvjLEGsvgAj4vBCFxhsamuFum7w@mail.gmail.com/
> > >
> > > If it helps, I found that Pixel 8 and 9 devices (didn't check Pixel 7)
> > > are already using the arch_timer with this 'local-timer-stop' as the default
> > > clocksource in the production kernel.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Will
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> >
> > Hi Will,
> >
> > Thanks for sharing the status of Pixel devices.
> >
> > I agree that using the arch_timer as a clock source device brings significant benefits.
> > The links you shared are definitely related to that.
> >
> > However, I would also like to know whether arch_timer is used as a clock event device in Pixel production.
>
> For Pixel 8 and 9, the arch_timer is used as both the clocksource and
> clockevent device which is what my series is proposing for Pixel 6 upstream.
> The MCT device is solely being used as the alternative clockevents device for
> waking up from the "c2" state. The reason for using the arch_timer as the
> clockevents device is because we were seeing hrtimer stability issues where
> a 10ms interval timer would delay about 300ms-1s before starting the callback.
> This resulted in several media-related latency issues.
>
> Thanks,
> Will
>
> [...]
>
Thank you for sharing your valuable experience. That will be helpful to us.
Thanks,
Youngmin
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