[PATCH v2] KVM: arm64: Get rid of userspace_irqchip_in_use

Raghavendra Rao Ananta posted 1 patch 3 weeks, 6 days ago
arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h |  2 --
arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c       |  3 +--
arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c              | 18 +++---------------
3 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
[PATCH v2] KVM: arm64: Get rid of userspace_irqchip_in_use
Posted by Raghavendra Rao Ananta 3 weeks, 6 days ago
Improper use of userspace_irqchip_in_use led to syzbot hitting the
following WARN_ON() in kvm_timer_update_irq():

WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 3281 at arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c:459
kvm_timer_update_irq+0x21c/0x394
Call trace:
  kvm_timer_update_irq+0x21c/0x394 arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c:459
  kvm_timer_vcpu_reset+0x158/0x684 arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c:968
  kvm_reset_vcpu+0x3b4/0x560 arch/arm64/kvm/reset.c:264
  kvm_vcpu_set_target arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c:1553 [inline]
  kvm_arch_vcpu_ioctl_vcpu_init arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c:1573 [inline]
  kvm_arch_vcpu_ioctl+0x112c/0x1b3c arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c:1695
  kvm_vcpu_ioctl+0x4ec/0xf74 virt/kvm/kvm_main.c:4658
  vfs_ioctl fs/ioctl.c:51 [inline]
  __do_sys_ioctl fs/ioctl.c:907 [inline]
  __se_sys_ioctl fs/ioctl.c:893 [inline]
  __arm64_sys_ioctl+0x108/0x184 fs/ioctl.c:893
  __invoke_syscall arch/arm64/kernel/syscall.c:35 [inline]
  invoke_syscall+0x78/0x1b8 arch/arm64/kernel/syscall.c:49
  el0_svc_common+0xe8/0x1b0 arch/arm64/kernel/syscall.c:132
  do_el0_svc+0x40/0x50 arch/arm64/kernel/syscall.c:151
  el0_svc+0x54/0x14c arch/arm64/kernel/entry-common.c:712
  el0t_64_sync_handler+0x84/0xfc arch/arm64/kernel/entry-common.c:730
  el0t_64_sync+0x190/0x194 arch/arm64/kernel/entry.S:598

The following sequence led to the scenario:
 - Userspace creates a VM and a vCPU.
 - The vCPU is initialized with KVM_ARM_VCPU_PMU_V3 during
   KVM_ARM_VCPU_INIT.
 - Without any other setup, such as vGIC or vPMU, userspace issues
   KVM_RUN on the vCPU. Since the vPMU is requested, but not setup,
   kvm_arm_pmu_v3_enable() fails in kvm_arch_vcpu_run_pid_change().
   As a result, KVM_RUN returns after enabling the timer, but before
   incrementing 'userspace_irqchip_in_use':
   kvm_arch_vcpu_run_pid_change()
       ret = kvm_arm_pmu_v3_enable()
           if (!vcpu->arch.pmu.created)
               return -EINVAL;
       if (ret)
           return ret;
       [...]
       if (!irqchip_in_kernel(kvm))
           static_branch_inc(&userspace_irqchip_in_use);
 - Userspace ignores the error and issues KVM_ARM_VCPU_INIT again.
   Since the timer is already enabled, control moves through the
   following flow, ultimately hitting the WARN_ON():
   kvm_timer_vcpu_reset()
       if (timer->enabled)
          kvm_timer_update_irq()
              if (!userspace_irqchip())
                  ret = kvm_vgic_inject_irq()
                      ret = vgic_lazy_init()
                          if (unlikely(!vgic_initialized(kvm)))
                              if (kvm->arch.vgic.vgic_model !=
                                  KVM_DEV_TYPE_ARM_VGIC_V2)
                                      return -EBUSY;
                  WARN_ON(ret);

Theoretically, since userspace_irqchip_in_use's functionality can be
simply replaced by '!irqchip_in_kernel()', get rid of the static key
to avoid the mismanagement, which also helps with the syzbot issue.

Cc: <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Reported-by: syzbot <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>
Suggested-by: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com>
---

v2:
  - Picked the diff shared by Marc to get rid of
    'userspace_irqchip_in_use' (thanks).
  - Adjusted the commit message accordingly.
v1: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241025221220.2985227-1-rananta@google.com/

 arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h |  2 --
 arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c       |  3 +--
 arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c              | 18 +++---------------
 3 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h
index 329619c6fa961..9f96594a0e05d 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h
+++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h
@@ -73,8 +73,6 @@ enum kvm_mode kvm_get_mode(void);
 static inline enum kvm_mode kvm_get_mode(void) { return KVM_MODE_NONE; };
 #endif
 
-DECLARE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(userspace_irqchip_in_use);
-
 extern unsigned int __ro_after_init kvm_sve_max_vl;
 extern unsigned int __ro_after_init kvm_host_sve_max_vl;
 int __init kvm_arm_init_sve(void);
diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c
index 879982b1cc739..1215df5904185 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c
+++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c
@@ -206,8 +206,7 @@ void get_timer_map(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, struct timer_map *map)
 
 static inline bool userspace_irqchip(struct kvm *kvm)
 {
-	return static_branch_unlikely(&userspace_irqchip_in_use) &&
-		unlikely(!irqchip_in_kernel(kvm));
+	return unlikely(!irqchip_in_kernel(kvm));
 }
 
 static void soft_timer_start(struct hrtimer *hrt, u64 ns)
diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
index a0d01c46e4084..63f5c05e9dec6 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
+++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c
@@ -69,7 +69,6 @@ DECLARE_KVM_NVHE_PER_CPU(struct kvm_cpu_context, kvm_hyp_ctxt);
 static bool vgic_present, kvm_arm_initialised;
 
 static DEFINE_PER_CPU(unsigned char, kvm_hyp_initialized);
-DEFINE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(userspace_irqchip_in_use);
 
 bool is_kvm_arm_initialised(void)
 {
@@ -503,9 +502,6 @@ void kvm_arch_vcpu_postcreate(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
 
 void kvm_arch_vcpu_destroy(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
 {
-	if (vcpu_has_run_once(vcpu) && unlikely(!irqchip_in_kernel(vcpu->kvm)))
-		static_branch_dec(&userspace_irqchip_in_use);
-
 	kvm_mmu_free_memory_cache(&vcpu->arch.mmu_page_cache);
 	kvm_timer_vcpu_terminate(vcpu);
 	kvm_pmu_vcpu_destroy(vcpu);
@@ -848,14 +844,6 @@ int kvm_arch_vcpu_run_pid_change(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
 			return ret;
 	}
 
-	if (!irqchip_in_kernel(kvm)) {
-		/*
-		 * Tell the rest of the code that there are userspace irqchip
-		 * VMs in the wild.
-		 */
-		static_branch_inc(&userspace_irqchip_in_use);
-	}
-
 	/*
 	 * Initialize traps for protected VMs.
 	 * NOTE: Move to run in EL2 directly, rather than via a hypercall, once
@@ -1072,7 +1060,7 @@ static bool kvm_vcpu_exit_request(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, int *ret)
 	 * state gets updated in kvm_timer_update_run and
 	 * kvm_pmu_update_run below).
 	 */
-	if (static_branch_unlikely(&userspace_irqchip_in_use)) {
+	if (unlikely(!irqchip_in_kernel(vcpu->kvm))) {
 		if (kvm_timer_should_notify_user(vcpu) ||
 		    kvm_pmu_should_notify_user(vcpu)) {
 			*ret = -EINTR;
@@ -1194,7 +1182,7 @@ int kvm_arch_vcpu_ioctl_run(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
 			vcpu->mode = OUTSIDE_GUEST_MODE;
 			isb(); /* Ensure work in x_flush_hwstate is committed */
 			kvm_pmu_sync_hwstate(vcpu);
-			if (static_branch_unlikely(&userspace_irqchip_in_use))
+			if (unlikely(!irqchip_in_kernel(vcpu->kvm)))
 				kvm_timer_sync_user(vcpu);
 			kvm_vgic_sync_hwstate(vcpu);
 			local_irq_enable();
@@ -1240,7 +1228,7 @@ int kvm_arch_vcpu_ioctl_run(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
 		 * we don't want vtimer interrupts to race with syncing the
 		 * timer virtual interrupt state.
 		 */
-		if (static_branch_unlikely(&userspace_irqchip_in_use))
+		if (unlikely(!irqchip_in_kernel(vcpu->kvm)))
 			kvm_timer_sync_user(vcpu);
 
 		kvm_arch_vcpu_ctxsync_fp(vcpu);

base-commit: 9852d85ec9d492ebef56dc5f229416c925758edc
-- 
2.47.0.163.g1226f6d8fa-goog
Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: arm64: Get rid of userspace_irqchip_in_use
Posted by Oliver Upton 3 weeks, 3 days ago
On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 23:45:33 +0000, Raghavendra Rao Ananta wrote:
> Improper use of userspace_irqchip_in_use led to syzbot hitting the
> following WARN_ON() in kvm_timer_update_irq():
> 
> WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 3281 at arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c:459
> kvm_timer_update_irq+0x21c/0x394
> Call trace:
>   kvm_timer_update_irq+0x21c/0x394 arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c:459
>   kvm_timer_vcpu_reset+0x158/0x684 arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c:968
>   kvm_reset_vcpu+0x3b4/0x560 arch/arm64/kvm/reset.c:264
>   kvm_vcpu_set_target arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c:1553 [inline]
>   kvm_arch_vcpu_ioctl_vcpu_init arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c:1573 [inline]
>   kvm_arch_vcpu_ioctl+0x112c/0x1b3c arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c:1695
>   kvm_vcpu_ioctl+0x4ec/0xf74 virt/kvm/kvm_main.c:4658
>   vfs_ioctl fs/ioctl.c:51 [inline]
>   __do_sys_ioctl fs/ioctl.c:907 [inline]
>   __se_sys_ioctl fs/ioctl.c:893 [inline]
>   __arm64_sys_ioctl+0x108/0x184 fs/ioctl.c:893
>   __invoke_syscall arch/arm64/kernel/syscall.c:35 [inline]
>   invoke_syscall+0x78/0x1b8 arch/arm64/kernel/syscall.c:49
>   el0_svc_common+0xe8/0x1b0 arch/arm64/kernel/syscall.c:132
>   do_el0_svc+0x40/0x50 arch/arm64/kernel/syscall.c:151
>   el0_svc+0x54/0x14c arch/arm64/kernel/entry-common.c:712
>   el0t_64_sync_handler+0x84/0xfc arch/arm64/kernel/entry-common.c:730
>   el0t_64_sync+0x190/0x194 arch/arm64/kernel/entry.S:598
> 
> [...]

Applied to kvmarm/next, thanks!

[1/1] KVM: arm64: Get rid of userspace_irqchip_in_use
      https://git.kernel.org/kvmarm/kvmarm/c/e571ebcff926

--
Best,
Oliver
Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: arm64: Get rid of userspace_irqchip_in_use
Posted by Marc Zyngier 3 weeks, 5 days ago
On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 23:45:33 +0000,
Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com> wrote:
> 
> Improper use of userspace_irqchip_in_use led to syzbot hitting the
> following WARN_ON() in kvm_timer_update_irq():
> 
> WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 3281 at arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c:459
> kvm_timer_update_irq+0x21c/0x394
> Call trace:
>   kvm_timer_update_irq+0x21c/0x394 arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c:459
>   kvm_timer_vcpu_reset+0x158/0x684 arch/arm64/kvm/arch_timer.c:968
>   kvm_reset_vcpu+0x3b4/0x560 arch/arm64/kvm/reset.c:264
>   kvm_vcpu_set_target arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c:1553 [inline]
>   kvm_arch_vcpu_ioctl_vcpu_init arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c:1573 [inline]
>   kvm_arch_vcpu_ioctl+0x112c/0x1b3c arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c:1695
>   kvm_vcpu_ioctl+0x4ec/0xf74 virt/kvm/kvm_main.c:4658
>   vfs_ioctl fs/ioctl.c:51 [inline]
>   __do_sys_ioctl fs/ioctl.c:907 [inline]
>   __se_sys_ioctl fs/ioctl.c:893 [inline]
>   __arm64_sys_ioctl+0x108/0x184 fs/ioctl.c:893
>   __invoke_syscall arch/arm64/kernel/syscall.c:35 [inline]
>   invoke_syscall+0x78/0x1b8 arch/arm64/kernel/syscall.c:49
>   el0_svc_common+0xe8/0x1b0 arch/arm64/kernel/syscall.c:132
>   do_el0_svc+0x40/0x50 arch/arm64/kernel/syscall.c:151
>   el0_svc+0x54/0x14c arch/arm64/kernel/entry-common.c:712
>   el0t_64_sync_handler+0x84/0xfc arch/arm64/kernel/entry-common.c:730
>   el0t_64_sync+0x190/0x194 arch/arm64/kernel/entry.S:598
> 
> The following sequence led to the scenario:
>  - Userspace creates a VM and a vCPU.
>  - The vCPU is initialized with KVM_ARM_VCPU_PMU_V3 during
>    KVM_ARM_VCPU_INIT.
>  - Without any other setup, such as vGIC or vPMU, userspace issues
>    KVM_RUN on the vCPU. Since the vPMU is requested, but not setup,
>    kvm_arm_pmu_v3_enable() fails in kvm_arch_vcpu_run_pid_change().
>    As a result, KVM_RUN returns after enabling the timer, but before
>    incrementing 'userspace_irqchip_in_use':
>    kvm_arch_vcpu_run_pid_change()
>        ret = kvm_arm_pmu_v3_enable()
>            if (!vcpu->arch.pmu.created)
>                return -EINVAL;
>        if (ret)
>            return ret;
>        [...]
>        if (!irqchip_in_kernel(kvm))
>            static_branch_inc(&userspace_irqchip_in_use);
>  - Userspace ignores the error and issues KVM_ARM_VCPU_INIT again.
>    Since the timer is already enabled, control moves through the
>    following flow, ultimately hitting the WARN_ON():
>    kvm_timer_vcpu_reset()
>        if (timer->enabled)
>           kvm_timer_update_irq()
>               if (!userspace_irqchip())
>                   ret = kvm_vgic_inject_irq()
>                       ret = vgic_lazy_init()
>                           if (unlikely(!vgic_initialized(kvm)))
>                               if (kvm->arch.vgic.vgic_model !=
>                                   KVM_DEV_TYPE_ARM_VGIC_V2)
>                                       return -EBUSY;
>                   WARN_ON(ret);
> 
> Theoretically, since userspace_irqchip_in_use's functionality can be

nit: this isn't theoretical at all.

> simply replaced by '!irqchip_in_kernel()', get rid of the static key
> to avoid the mismanagement, which also helps with the syzbot issue.

Did you have a chance to check whether this had any negative impact on
actual workloads? Since the entry/exit code is a bit of a hot spot,
I'd like to make sure we're not penalising the common case (I only
wrote this patch while waiting in an airport, and didn't test it at
all).

Any such data about it would be very welcome in the commit message.

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: arm64: Get rid of userspace_irqchip_in_use
Posted by Raghavendra Rao Ananta 3 weeks, 5 days ago
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 9:27 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 23:45:33 +0000,
> Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com> wrote:
> >
> Did you have a chance to check whether this had any negative impact on
> actual workloads? Since the entry/exit code is a bit of a hot spot,
> I'd like to make sure we're not penalising the common case (I only
> wrote this patch while waiting in an airport, and didn't test it at
> all).
>
I ran the kvm selftests, kvm-unit-tests and booted a linux guest to
test the change and noticed no failures.
Any specific test you want to try out?

> Any such data about it would be very welcome in the commit message.
>
Sure, I'll include it if we have a v3.

Thank you.
Raghavendra
Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: arm64: Get rid of userspace_irqchip_in_use
Posted by Marc Zyngier 3 weeks, 5 days ago
On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 17:06:09 +0000,
Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 9:27 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 23:45:33 +0000,
> > Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > Did you have a chance to check whether this had any negative impact on
> > actual workloads? Since the entry/exit code is a bit of a hot spot,
> > I'd like to make sure we're not penalising the common case (I only
> > wrote this patch while waiting in an airport, and didn't test it at
> > all).
> >
> I ran the kvm selftests, kvm-unit-tests and booted a linux guest to
> test the change and noticed no failures.
> Any specific test you want to try out?

My question is not about failures (I didn't expect any), but
specifically about *performance*, and whether checking the flag
without a static key can lead to any performance drop on the hot path.

Can you please run an exit-heavy workload (such as hackbench, for
example), and report any significant delta you could measure?

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: arm64: Get rid of userspace_irqchip_in_use
Posted by Raghavendra Rao Ananta 3 weeks, 5 days ago
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 11:47 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 17:06:09 +0000,
> Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 9:27 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 23:45:33 +0000,
> > > Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > Did you have a chance to check whether this had any negative impact on
> > > actual workloads? Since the entry/exit code is a bit of a hot spot,
> > > I'd like to make sure we're not penalising the common case (I only
> > > wrote this patch while waiting in an airport, and didn't test it at
> > > all).
> > >
> > I ran the kvm selftests, kvm-unit-tests and booted a linux guest to
> > test the change and noticed no failures.
> > Any specific test you want to try out?
>
> My question is not about failures (I didn't expect any), but
> specifically about *performance*, and whether checking the flag
> without a static key can lead to any performance drop on the hot path.
>
> Can you please run an exit-heavy workload (such as hackbench, for
> example), and report any significant delta you could measure?

Oh, I see. I ran hackbench and micro-bench from kvm-unit-tests (which
also causes a lot of entry/exits), on Ampere Altra with kernel at
v6.12-rc1, and see no significant difference in perf.

hackbench:
=========
Ran on a guest with 64 vCPUs and backed by 8G of memory. The results
are an average of 3 runs:

Task groups | Baseline | Patch | Approx. entry/exits
----------------|------------|--------- |------------------------
100              | 0.154     | 0.164  | 150k
250              | 0.456     | 0.458  | 500k
500              | 0.851     | 0.826  | 920k
(Total tasks for each row == task groups * 40)

kvm-unit-tests micro-bench
======================

The test causes ~530k entry/exits.

Baseline:

name                                    total ns                         avg ns
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
hvc                                  20095360.0                          306.0
mmio_read_user           110350040.0                         1683.0
mmio_read_vgic              29572840.0                          451.0
eoi                                        964080.0
        14.0
ipi                                   126236640.0                         1926.0
lpi                                   142848920.0                         2179.0
timer_10ms                          231040.0                          902.0


Patch:

name                                    total ns                         avg ns
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
hvc                                  20067680.0                            306.0
mmio_read_user           109513800.0                         1671.0
mmio_read_vgic              29190080.0                           445.0
eoi                                       963400.0
        14.0
ipi                                  116481640.0                          1777.0
lpi                                  136556000.0                          2083.0
timer_10ms                         234120.0                            914.0

Thank you.
Raghavendra
Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: arm64: Get rid of userspace_irqchip_in_use
Posted by Marc Zyngier 3 weeks, 4 days ago
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 00:16:48 +0000,
Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 11:47 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 17:06:09 +0000,
> > Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 9:27 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 23:45:33 +0000,
> > > > Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > Did you have a chance to check whether this had any negative impact on
> > > > actual workloads? Since the entry/exit code is a bit of a hot spot,
> > > > I'd like to make sure we're not penalising the common case (I only
> > > > wrote this patch while waiting in an airport, and didn't test it at
> > > > all).
> > > >
> > > I ran the kvm selftests, kvm-unit-tests and booted a linux guest to
> > > test the change and noticed no failures.
> > > Any specific test you want to try out?
> >
> > My question is not about failures (I didn't expect any), but
> > specifically about *performance*, and whether checking the flag
> > without a static key can lead to any performance drop on the hot path.
> >
> > Can you please run an exit-heavy workload (such as hackbench, for
> > example), and report any significant delta you could measure?
> 
> Oh, I see. I ran hackbench and micro-bench from kvm-unit-tests (which
> also causes a lot of entry/exits), on Ampere Altra with kernel at
> v6.12-rc1, and see no significant difference in perf.

Thanks for running this stuff.

> timer_10ms                          231040.0                          902.0
> timer_10ms                         234120.0                            914.0

This seems to be the only case were we are adversely affected by this
change. In the grand scheme of thins, that's noise. But this gives us
a clear line of sight for the removal of the in-kernel interrupts back
to userspace.

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: arm64: Get rid of userspace_irqchip_in_use
Posted by Raghavendra Rao Ananta 3 weeks, 4 days ago
On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 1:22 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 00:16:48 +0000,
> Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 11:47 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 17:06:09 +0000,
> > > Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 9:27 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 23:45:33 +0000,
> > > > > Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > Did you have a chance to check whether this had any negative impact on
> > > > > actual workloads? Since the entry/exit code is a bit of a hot spot,
> > > > > I'd like to make sure we're not penalising the common case (I only
> > > > > wrote this patch while waiting in an airport, and didn't test it at
> > > > > all).
> > > > >
> > > > I ran the kvm selftests, kvm-unit-tests and booted a linux guest to
> > > > test the change and noticed no failures.
> > > > Any specific test you want to try out?
> > >
> > > My question is not about failures (I didn't expect any), but
> > > specifically about *performance*, and whether checking the flag
> > > without a static key can lead to any performance drop on the hot path.
> > >
> > > Can you please run an exit-heavy workload (such as hackbench, for
> > > example), and report any significant delta you could measure?
> >
> > Oh, I see. I ran hackbench and micro-bench from kvm-unit-tests (which
> > also causes a lot of entry/exits), on Ampere Altra with kernel at
> > v6.12-rc1, and see no significant difference in perf.
>
> Thanks for running this stuff.
>
> > timer_10ms                          231040.0                          902.0
> > timer_10ms                         234120.0                            914.0
>
> This seems to be the only case were we are adversely affected by this
> change.
Hmm, I'm not sure how much we want to trust this comparison. For
instance, I just ran micro-bench again a few more times and here are
the outcomes of timer_10ms for each try with the patch:

Tries                                             total ns
               avg ns
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1_timer_10ms                             231840.0                          905.0
2_timer_10ms                             234560.0                          916.0
3_timer_10ms                             227440.0                          888.0
4_timer_10ms                             236640.0                          924.0
5_timer_10ms                             231200.0                          903.0

Here's a few on the baseline:

Tries                                             total ns
               avg ns
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1_timer_10ms                             231080.0                          902.0
2_timer_10ms                             238040.0                          929.0
3_timer_10ms                             231680.0                          905.0
4_timer_10ms                             229280.0                          895.0
5_timer_10ms                             228520.0                          892.0


> In the grand scheme of thins, that's noise. But this gives us
> a clear line of sight for the removal of the in-kernel interrupts back
> to userspace.
Sorry, I didn't follow you completely on this part.

Thank you.
Raghavendra
Re: [PATCH v2] KVM: arm64: Get rid of userspace_irqchip_in_use
Posted by Marc Zyngier 3 weeks, 4 days ago
On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 16:36:19 +0000,
Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 1:22 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 00:16:48 +0000,
> > Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 11:47 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 17:06:09 +0000,
> > > > Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 9:27 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 23:45:33 +0000,
> > > > > > Raghavendra Rao Ananta <rananta@google.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Did you have a chance to check whether this had any negative impact on
> > > > > > actual workloads? Since the entry/exit code is a bit of a hot spot,
> > > > > > I'd like to make sure we're not penalising the common case (I only
> > > > > > wrote this patch while waiting in an airport, and didn't test it at
> > > > > > all).
> > > > > >
> > > > > I ran the kvm selftests, kvm-unit-tests and booted a linux guest to
> > > > > test the change and noticed no failures.
> > > > > Any specific test you want to try out?
> > > >
> > > > My question is not about failures (I didn't expect any), but
> > > > specifically about *performance*, and whether checking the flag
> > > > without a static key can lead to any performance drop on the hot path.
> > > >
> > > > Can you please run an exit-heavy workload (such as hackbench, for
> > > > example), and report any significant delta you could measure?
> > >
> > > Oh, I see. I ran hackbench and micro-bench from kvm-unit-tests (which
> > > also causes a lot of entry/exits), on Ampere Altra with kernel at
> > > v6.12-rc1, and see no significant difference in perf.
> >
> > Thanks for running this stuff.
> >
> > > timer_10ms                          231040.0                          902.0
> > > timer_10ms                         234120.0                            914.0
> >
> > This seems to be the only case were we are adversely affected by this
> > change.
> Hmm, I'm not sure how much we want to trust this comparison. For
> instance, I just ran micro-bench again a few more times and here are
> the outcomes of timer_10ms for each try with the patch:
> 
> Tries                                             total ns
>                avg ns
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 1_timer_10ms                             231840.0                          905.0
> 2_timer_10ms                             234560.0                          916.0
> 3_timer_10ms                             227440.0                          888.0
> 4_timer_10ms                             236640.0                          924.0
> 5_timer_10ms                             231200.0                          903.0
> 
> Here's a few on the baseline:
> 
> Tries                                             total ns
>                avg ns
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 1_timer_10ms                             231080.0                          902.0
> 2_timer_10ms                             238040.0                          929.0
> 3_timer_10ms                             231680.0                          905.0
> 4_timer_10ms                             229280.0                          895.0
> 5_timer_10ms                             228520.0                          892.0

OK, so this benchmark is all over the place, and we can't derive
much from it.

> > In the grand scheme of thins, that's noise. But this gives us
> > a clear line of sight for the removal of the in-kernel interrupts back
> > to userspace.
> Sorry, I didn't follow you completely on this part.

Just me moaning. The code that was gated by the static key that you
just removed is used to signal interrupts from the kernel back to
userspace, and I'm resisting the urge to remove it altogether now.

	M.

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