Refer to ptr_eq() in the rcu_dereference() documentation.
ptr_eq() is a mechanism that preserves address dependencies when
comparing pointers, and should be favored when comparing a pointer
obtained from rcu_dereference() against another pointer.
Signed-off-by: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>
Cc: Neeraj Upadhyay <Neeraj.Upadhyay@amd.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>
Cc: Zqiang <qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: maged.michael@gmail.com
Cc: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
Cc: Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>
Cc: Jonas Oberhauser <jonas.oberhauser@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: lkmm@lists.linux.dev
---
Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst | 34 +++++++++++++++++++++++----
1 file changed, 29 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
diff --git a/Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst b/Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst
index 2524dcdadde2..c36b8d1721f6 100644
--- a/Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst
+++ b/Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst
@@ -104,11 +104,13 @@ readers working properly:
after such branches, but can speculate loads, which can again
result in misordering bugs.
-- Be very careful about comparing pointers obtained from
- rcu_dereference() against non-NULL values. As Linus Torvalds
- explained, if the two pointers are equal, the compiler could
- substitute the pointer you are comparing against for the pointer
- obtained from rcu_dereference(). For example::
+- Use relational operators which preserve address dependencies
+ (such as "ptr_eq()") to compare pointers obtained from
+ rcu_dereference() against non-NULL values or against pointers
+ obtained from prior loads. As Linus Torvalds explained, if the
+ two pointers are equal, the compiler could substitute the
+ pointer you are comparing against for the pointer obtained from
+ rcu_dereference(). For example::
p = rcu_dereference(gp);
if (p == &default_struct)
@@ -125,6 +127,23 @@ readers working properly:
On ARM and Power hardware, the load from "default_struct.a"
can now be speculated, such that it might happen before the
rcu_dereference(). This could result in bugs due to misordering.
+ Performing the comparison with "ptr_eq()" ensures the compiler
+ does not perform such transformation.
+
+ If the comparison is against a pointer obtained from prior
+ loads, the compiler is allowed to use either register for the
+ following accesses, which loses the address dependency and
+ allows weakly-ordered architectures such as ARM and PowerPC
+ to speculate the address-dependent load before rcu_dereference().
+ For example::
+
+ p1 = READ_ONCE(gp);
+ p2 = rcu_dereference(gp);
+ if (p1 == p2)
+ do_default(p2->a);
+
+ Performing the comparison with "ptr_eq()" ensures the compiler
+ preserves the address dependencies.
However, comparisons are OK in the following cases:
@@ -204,6 +223,11 @@ readers working properly:
comparison will provide exactly the information that the
compiler needs to deduce the value of the pointer.
+ When in doubt, use relational operators that preserve address
+ dependencies (such as "ptr_eq()") to compare pointers obtained
+ from rcu_dereference() against non-NULL values or against
+ pointers obtained from prior loads.
+
- Disable any value-speculation optimizations that your compiler
might provide, especially if you are making use of feedback-based
optimizations that take data collected from prior runs. Such
--
2.39.2
On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 09:51:28AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: > Refer to ptr_eq() in the rcu_dereference() documentation. > > ptr_eq() is a mechanism that preserves address dependencies when > comparing pointers, and should be favored when comparing a pointer > obtained from rcu_dereference() against another pointer. > > Signed-off-by: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> > Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> > Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> > Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org> > Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> > Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> > Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> > Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> > Cc: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com> > Cc: Neeraj Upadhyay <Neeraj.Upadhyay@amd.com> > Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> > Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com> > Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org> > Cc: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org> > Cc: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> > Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com> > Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> > Cc: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com> > Cc: Zqiang <qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com> > Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com> > Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com> > Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> > Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> > Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz> > Cc: maged.michael@gmail.com > Cc: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com> > Cc: Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net> > Cc: Jonas Oberhauser <jonas.oberhauser@huaweicloud.com> > Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org > Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org > Cc: lkmm@lists.linux.dev > --- > Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst | 34 +++++++++++++++++++++++---- > 1 file changed, 29 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst b/Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst > index 2524dcdadde2..c36b8d1721f6 100644 > --- a/Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst > +++ b/Documentation/RCU/rcu_dereference.rst > @@ -104,11 +104,13 @@ readers working properly: > after such branches, but can speculate loads, which can again > result in misordering bugs. > > -- Be very careful about comparing pointers obtained from > - rcu_dereference() against non-NULL values. As Linus Torvalds > - explained, if the two pointers are equal, the compiler could > - substitute the pointer you are comparing against for the pointer > - obtained from rcu_dereference(). For example:: > +- Use relational operators which preserve address dependencies > + (such as "ptr_eq()") to compare pointers obtained from Nit: ptr_eq() is an inline function, not a relational operator. Say "operations that" instead of "relational operators which". > + rcu_dereference() against non-NULL values or against pointers > + obtained from prior loads. As Linus Torvalds explained, if the > + two pointers are equal, the compiler could substitute the > + pointer you are comparing against for the pointer obtained from > + rcu_dereference(). For example:: > > p = rcu_dereference(gp); > if (p == &default_struct) > @@ -125,6 +127,23 @@ readers working properly: > On ARM and Power hardware, the load from "default_struct.a" > can now be speculated, such that it might happen before the > rcu_dereference(). This could result in bugs due to misordering. > + Performing the comparison with "ptr_eq()" ensures the compiler > + does not perform such transformation. > + > + If the comparison is against a pointer obtained from prior > + loads, the compiler is allowed to use either register for the This is true even when the comparison is against a pointer obtained from a later load. Just say "another pointer" instead of "a pointer obtained from prior loads". (And why would someone need multiple loads to obtain a single pointer?) Also, say "pointer" instead of "register". > + following accesses, which loses the address dependency and > + allows weakly-ordered architectures such as ARM and PowerPC > + to speculate the address-dependent load before rcu_dereference(). > + For example:: > + > + p1 = READ_ONCE(gp); > + p2 = rcu_dereference(gp); > + if (p1 == p2) > + do_default(p2->a); Here you should say that the compiler could use p1->a rather than p2->a, destroying the address dependency. That's the whole point of this; you shouldn't skip over it. > + > + Performing the comparison with "ptr_eq()" ensures the compiler > + preserves the address dependencies. > > However, comparisons are OK in the following cases: > > @@ -204,6 +223,11 @@ readers working properly: > comparison will provide exactly the information that the > compiler needs to deduce the value of the pointer. > > + When in doubt, use relational operators that preserve address Again, "operations" instead of "relational operators". Alan Stern > + dependencies (such as "ptr_eq()") to compare pointers obtained > + from rcu_dereference() against non-NULL values or against > + pointers obtained from prior loads. > + > - Disable any value-speculation optimizations that your compiler > might provide, especially if you are making use of feedback-based > optimizations that take data collected from prior runs. Such > -- > 2.39.2 >
On 2024-09-28 16:58, Alan Stern wrote: > On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 09:51:28AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: [...] >> -- Be very careful about comparing pointers obtained from >> - rcu_dereference() against non-NULL values. As Linus Torvalds >> - explained, if the two pointers are equal, the compiler could >> - substitute the pointer you are comparing against for the pointer >> - obtained from rcu_dereference(). For example:: >> +- Use relational operators which preserve address dependencies >> + (such as "ptr_eq()") to compare pointers obtained from > > Nit: ptr_eq() is an inline function, not a relational operator. Say > "operations that" instead of "relational operators which". > >> + rcu_dereference() against non-NULL values or against pointers Note: here I need to update the wording as well: +- Use operations that preserve address dependencies (such as + "ptr_eq()") to compare pointers obtained from rcu_dereference() + against non-NULL pointers. As Linus Torvalds explained, if the + two pointers are equal, the compiler could substitute the + pointer you are comparing against for the pointer obtained from + rcu_dereference(). For example:: >> + obtained from prior loads. As Linus Torvalds explained, if the >> + two pointers are equal, the compiler could substitute the >> + pointer you are comparing against for the pointer obtained from >> + rcu_dereference(). For example:: >> >> p = rcu_dereference(gp); >> if (p == &default_struct) >> @@ -125,6 +127,23 @@ readers working properly: >> On ARM and Power hardware, the load from "default_struct.a" >> can now be speculated, such that it might happen before the >> rcu_dereference(). This could result in bugs due to misordering. >> + Performing the comparison with "ptr_eq()" ensures the compiler >> + does not perform such transformation. >> + >> + If the comparison is against a pointer obtained from prior >> + loads, the compiler is allowed to use either register for the > > This is true even when the comparison is against a pointer obtained from > a later load. Just say "another pointer" instead of "a pointer obtained > from prior loads". (And why would someone need multiple loads to > obtain a single pointer?) > > Also, say "pointer" instead of "register". OK. > >> + following accesses, which loses the address dependency and >> + allows weakly-ordered architectures such as ARM and PowerPC >> + to speculate the address-dependent load before rcu_dereference(). >> + For example:: >> + >> + p1 = READ_ONCE(gp); >> + p2 = rcu_dereference(gp); >> + if (p1 == p2) >> + do_default(p2->a); > > Here you should say that the compiler could use p1->a rather than p2->a, > destroying the address dependency. That's the whole point of this; you > shouldn't skip over it. OK. > >> + >> + Performing the comparison with "ptr_eq()" ensures the compiler >> + preserves the address dependencies. >> >> However, comparisons are OK in the following cases: >> >> @@ -204,6 +223,11 @@ readers working properly: >> comparison will provide exactly the information that the >> compiler needs to deduce the value of the pointer. >> >> + When in doubt, use relational operators that preserve address > > Again, "operations" instead of "relational operators". OK. Will fix in my next round. Thanks, Mathieu > > Alan Stern > >> + dependencies (such as "ptr_eq()") to compare pointers obtained >> + from rcu_dereference() against non-NULL values or against >> + pointers obtained from prior loads. >> + >> - Disable any value-speculation optimizations that your compiler >> might provide, especially if you are making use of feedback-based >> optimizations that take data collected from prior runs. Such >> -- >> 2.39.2 >> -- Mathieu Desnoyers EfficiOS Inc. https://www.efficios.com
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