Documentation/admin-guide/mm/multigen_lru.rst | 10 ++ include/linux/mm_inline.h | 9 + include/linux/mmzone.h | 4 +- mm/memcontrol.c | 163 ++++++++++++++++++ mm/vmscan.c | 82 ++++++--- 5 files changed, 246 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-)
On original global lru_gen node in debugfs, it can all show each memcg's lru gen info in "lru_gen" or "lru_gen_full", and can type cmd into lru_gen. But which show info contains all memcg's info, and cmd need to know memcg's id. This patchset add lru_gen node in per memcg, with this node, we can get lru_gen info in each memcg. Also, we can type cmd to control each memcg's lru_gen seq, but, this node don't support multi cmd, single memcg just process one cmd once time. HuanYang (3): mm: multi-gen LRU: fold lru_gen run cmd mm: memcg: add per memcg "lru_gen" node mm: multi-gen LRU: add per memcg "lru_gen" document Documentation/admin-guide/mm/multigen_lru.rst | 10 ++ include/linux/mm_inline.h | 9 + include/linux/mmzone.h | 4 +- mm/memcontrol.c | 163 ++++++++++++++++++ mm/vmscan.c | 82 ++++++--- 5 files changed, 246 insertions(+), 22 deletions(-) -- 2.34.1
On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 8:57 PM Huan Yang <link@vivo.com> wrote: > > On original global lru_gen node in debugfs, it can all show each memcg's > lru gen info in "lru_gen" or "lru_gen_full", and can type cmd into lru_gen. > But which show info contains all memcg's info, and cmd need to > know memcg's id. > > This patchset add lru_gen node in per memcg, with this node, we can > get lru_gen info in each memcg. > Also, we can type cmd to control each memcg's lru_gen seq, but, this node > don't support multi cmd, single memcg just process one cmd once time. Adding TJ from the Android team. (The other TJ you CC'ed is from the ChromeOS team.) This series introduced a new ABI, which has to be maintained forever. How exactly would it be used in *production*? Android doesn't officially support memcgs. So I want to understand the real-world use cases first.
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 9:34 AM Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 8:57 PM Huan Yang <link@vivo.com> wrote: > > > > On original global lru_gen node in debugfs, it can all show each memcg's > > lru gen info in "lru_gen" or "lru_gen_full", and can type cmd into lru_gen. > > But which show info contains all memcg's info, and cmd need to > > know memcg's id. > > > > This patchset add lru_gen node in per memcg, with this node, we can > > get lru_gen info in each memcg. > > Also, we can type cmd to control each memcg's lru_gen seq, but, this node > > don't support multi cmd, single memcg just process one cmd once time. > > Adding TJ from the Android team. (The other TJ you CC'ed is from the > ChromeOS team.) > > This series introduced a new ABI, which has to be maintained forever. > How exactly would it be used in *production*? > > Android doesn't officially support memcgs. So I want to understand the > real-world use cases first. Not sure how Android came up but I'm happy to chat. We want to turn on memcg v2 for Android but I'm currently working through perf impacts before that happens. Android can't use debugfs in production, but I think we'd prefer to use memory.reclaim for eviction anyway because it respects memcg limits and reclaims from slab. So maybe it's possible to add just aging functionality specific to MGLRU? It'd be nice to know how you're going to use the aging, or why you want this version of eviction instead of what memory.reclaim does.
在 2023/10/19 3:59, T.J. Mercier 写道: > [你通常不会收到来自 tjmercier@google.com 的电子邮件。请访问 https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification,以了解这一点为什么很重要] > > On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 9:34 AM Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 8:57 PM Huan Yang <link@vivo.com> wrote: >>> On original global lru_gen node in debugfs, it can all show each memcg's >>> lru gen info in "lru_gen" or "lru_gen_full", and can type cmd into lru_gen. >>> But which show info contains all memcg's info, and cmd need to >>> know memcg's id. >>> >>> This patchset add lru_gen node in per memcg, with this node, we can >>> get lru_gen info in each memcg. >>> Also, we can type cmd to control each memcg's lru_gen seq, but, this node >>> don't support multi cmd, single memcg just process one cmd once time. >> Adding TJ from the Android team. (The other TJ you CC'ed is from the >> ChromeOS team.) >> >> This series introduced a new ABI, which has to be maintained forever. >> How exactly would it be used in *production*? >> >> Android doesn't officially support memcgs. So I want to understand the >> real-world use cases first. > Not sure how Android came up but I'm happy to chat. We want to turn on > memcg v2 for Android but I'm currently working through perf impacts > before that happens. Android can't use debugfs in production, but I > think we'd prefer to use memory.reclaim for eviction anyway because it > respects memcg limits and reclaims from slab. Yes, shrink control this actually can use proactive reclaim. > > So maybe it's possible to add just aging functionality specific to > MGLRU? It'd be nice to know how you're going to use the aging, or why Due to debugfs not always mount, if we want to now lrugen's info, maybe nice to offer a memcg's node to show per memcg's lrugen info. > you want this version of eviction instead of what memory.reclaim does. So, this node not want to instead of memory.reclaim, it's good enough. age or other control just flow debugfs global node's behavior. If no need, delete write is OK. Thanks
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 7:32 PM Huan Yang <link@vivo.com> wrote: > > Android can't use debugfs in production, but I > > think we'd prefer to use memory.reclaim for eviction anyway because it > > respects memcg limits and reclaims from slab. > Yes, shrink control this actually can use proactive reclaim. > > > > So maybe it's possible to add just aging functionality specific to > > MGLRU? It'd be nice to know how you're going to use the aging, or why > Due to debugfs not always mount, if we want to now lrugen's info, maybe > nice to offer a memcg's node to show per memcg's lrugen info. > > you want this version of eviction instead of what memory.reclaim does. > I think Yu's inquiry was about whether you will look at the lrugen info from the memcg file for a production use case, or just for debugging where you don't have debugfs for some reason. Because it's a long term commitment to add the file.
在 2023/10/20 0:01, T.J. Mercier 写道: > [你通常不会收到来自 tjmercier@google.com 的电子邮件。请访问 https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification,以了解这一点为什么很重要] > > On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 7:32 PM Huan Yang <link@vivo.com> wrote: >>> Android can't use debugfs in production, but I >>> think we'd prefer to use memory.reclaim for eviction anyway because it >>> respects memcg limits and reclaims from slab. >> Yes, shrink control this actually can use proactive reclaim. >>> So maybe it's possible to add just aging functionality specific to >>> MGLRU? It'd be nice to know how you're going to use the aging, or why >> Due to debugfs not always mount, if we want to now lrugen's info, maybe >> nice to offer a memcg's node to show per memcg's lrugen info. >>> you want this version of eviction instead of what memory.reclaim does. > I think Yu's inquiry was about whether you will look at the lrugen Thanks to point that. > info from the memcg file for a production use case, or just for > debugging where you don't have debugfs for some reason. Because it's a Yes, for now use, just collect log from it, not have control logic. For future use, maybe we need to control a memcg's lru_gen anon seq reclaim. (just assume) > long term commitment to add the file. OK, if I can offer a actually use case, I will send again Thanks too much.
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