Readers looking for user-oriented information may benefit from it.

Signed-off-by: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
---
 Documentation/index.rst | 2 ++
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/index.rst b/Documentation/index.rst
index 5a700548ae82..85eab6e990ab 100644
--- a/Documentation/index.rst
+++ b/Documentation/index.rst
@@ -76,6 +76,8 @@ developers seeking information on the kernel's user-space APIs.
    User-space tools <tools/index>
    userspace-api/index
 
+See also: the `Linux man pages <https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/>`_,
+which are kept separately from the kernel's own documentation.
 
 Firmware-related documentation
 ------------------------------
-- 
2.37.2

On 27.09.22 18:05, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> Readers looking for user-oriented information may benefit from it.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
> ---
>  Documentation/index.rst | 2 ++
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/index.rst b/Documentation/index.rst
> index 5a700548ae82..85eab6e990ab 100644
> --- a/Documentation/index.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/index.rst
> @@ -76,6 +76,8 @@ developers seeking information on the kernel's user-space APIs.
>     User-space tools <tools/index>
>     userspace-api/index
>  
> +See also: the `Linux man pages <https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/>`_,
> +which are kept separately from the kernel's own documentation.

People following that link might be inclined to click on the section 1
and then find a lot of stuff that has nothing or not much to do with the
kernel and then might feel lost. So how about a text like this instead:

```
See also the `Linux man pages <https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/>`_,
as that where some of the kernel's documentation is kept. Among it are
for example descriptions of Linux' `system calls
<https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_section_2.html>`_ and `devices
<https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_section_4.html>`_; the sections
`files <https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_section_5.html>`_ and
`overviews, conventions, and miscellaneous
<https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_section_7.html>`_ also contain
many documents dedicated to aspects of the kernel.
```

The last section (e.g. everything after the semicolon) might not be
worth it.

Ciao, Thorsten

Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info> writes:

> On 27.09.22 18:05, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
>> Readers looking for user-oriented information may benefit from it.
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
>> ---
>>  Documentation/index.rst | 2 ++
>>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
>> 
>> diff --git a/Documentation/index.rst b/Documentation/index.rst
>> index 5a700548ae82..85eab6e990ab 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/index.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/index.rst
>> @@ -76,6 +76,8 @@ developers seeking information on the kernel's user-space APIs.
>>     User-space tools <tools/index>
>>     userspace-api/index
>>  
>> +See also: the `Linux man pages <https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/>`_,
>> +which are kept separately from the kernel's own documentation.
>
> People following that link might be inclined to click on the section 1
> and then find a lot of stuff that has nothing or not much to do with the
> kernel and then might feel lost. So how about a text like this instead:
>
> ```
> See also the `Linux man pages <https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/>`_,
> as that where some of the kernel's documentation is kept. Among it are
> for example descriptions of Linux' `system calls
> <https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_section_2.html>`_ and `devices
> <https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_section_4.html>`_; the sections
> `files <https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_section_5.html>`_ and
> `overviews, conventions, and miscellaneous
> <https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_section_7.html>`_ also contain
> many documents dedicated to aspects of the kernel.
> ```

Honestly, if the landing page for the man pages is not sufficiently
clear to guide readers toward their goal, then I think the fix needs to
be applied there.  Reproducing parts of it on the kernel front page
seems like the wrong solution, somehow...

Thanks,

jon

On 9/27/22 23:21, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> 
> 
> On 27.09.22 18:05, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
>> Readers looking for user-oriented information may benefit from it.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
>> ---
>>  Documentation/index.rst | 2 ++
>>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/index.rst b/Documentation/index.rst
>> index 5a700548ae82..85eab6e990ab 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/index.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/index.rst
>> @@ -76,6 +76,8 @@ developers seeking information on the kernel's user-space APIs.
>>     User-space tools <tools/index>
>>     userspace-api/index
>>  
>> +See also: the `Linux man pages <https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/>`_,
>> +which are kept separately from the kernel's own documentation.
> 
> People following that link might be inclined to click on the section 1
> and then find a lot of stuff that has nothing or not much to do with the
> kernel and then might feel lost. So how about a text like this instead:
> 
> ```
> See also the `Linux man pages <https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/>`_,
> as that where some of the kernel's documentation is kept. Among it are
> for example descriptions of Linux' `system calls
> <https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_section_2.html>`_ and `devices
> <https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_section_4.html>`_; the sections
> `files <https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_section_5.html>`_ and
> `overviews, conventions, and miscellaneous
> <https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/dir_section_7.html>`_ also contain
> many documents dedicated to aspects of the kernel.
> ```
> 
> The last section (e.g. everything after the semicolon) might not be
> worth it.

I prefer the simple instead of the verbose.

-- 
~Randy

On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 10:05:59AM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> Readers looking for user-oriented information may benefit from it.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>

Reviewed-by: David Vernet <void@manifault.com>